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Long, long, long overdue, but hooray for them finally getting there.

Not a popular opinion for Linux shillers, but I love GNOME. It’s quite simplified but does most what a normal person could want. I think its main criticisms largely stem from saying it’s not very "Windows"y.

Well… then what did I lose in its creation?

Yeah, I’d be willing to do that to write a trillion pieces of ultra-advanced software that fulfils every possible need.

Then I’d monetise enough of it to live comfortably, and then do projects in my own time and actually enjoy them.

Then I have no idea what you’re referring to by ‘what google is doing to android and tried to do to web’ because as far as I know, that isn’t relevant.

What I’m describing is definitively not antivirus. Antiviruses use heuristics (and known checksums of bad things) to scan processes/files/network traffic/system calls for dangerous patterns. They’re not doing real-time checksuming to detect system corruption or malfunction, they’re not comparing known system files because that’s complex and hard to do, and seems to be what the company is claiming here.

I have no idea what Google checksuming you’re referring to but as far as I’m aware that’s a not thing they’re doing to android and trying to do web. Everything Linux (including Android) does some amount of checksums at certain points because they’re useful, but not real-time process checksums. I assumed you were surely referring to them requiring that apps get signed by their certificates, making everything subject to their approval. Which is different from realtime checksumming for integrity.

I don’t think this is accurate. What Google is doing is making the whole ecosystem depend on Google’s approval to be allowed to work.

In this case, they seem to be claiming they’re just doing real-time checking of processes as they run (presumably stuff like checksuming loaded libraries, looking for memory overruns, etc.), and so detecting certain signs of malware or system corruption.

To be honest, based on the announcement it sounds completely unnecessary, but I don’t think they’re at all doing what Google is doing.

These are very subjective arguments, and even the objective points are completely subjective depending on your distro.

I mean one of his arguments is that C++ is just inherently insecure. He just takes Microsoft’s claims at face-value that all their pointless shit is the magical security wall that it claims to be. He buys into the same lie that ACE on a Windows, Mac or Android is somehow much much safer than on Linux. Most of his claims that other OSes are more secure are rooted in “well yeah they do exactly the same but at least they knooow they do”.

I’m not even acknowledging ChromeOS - it is Linux, except it only runs a browser.

99% of this stuff also applies to Windows/MacOS/Android/iOS, except moreso and far more universally. And 90% of this stuff is only relevant if you’re being targeted by some state-funded intelligence like the CIA (cold reading your RAM?? minimum 16-character password?? Keystroke fingerprinting???)

So whatever, I think the hardening guide looks fairly accurate, but unless you’re being spied on by world powers, I wouldn’t consider it worth peoples’ time to read, never mind implement. 90% of people are still going to be more secure by cluelessly using Linux instead of cluelessly using the others.

well alright, maybe just a little bit moreso. But it’s not really a new phenomenon. Microsoft have long-demonstrated they could reach out the computer monitor and slap every user around a bit with a large trout, and still keep 95% of their user base.

To be fair, a ‘strong’ password isn’t likely to help all that much.

Those compromised account lists are almost exclusively from websites that were hacked to harvest passwords, or didn’t hash their passwords sufficiently in the first place.

Making a strong password is obviously ideal. But people are generally better off with some basic in-browser password management - avoid password reuse is the real big deal. Maybe diceware is the thing to use if there’s a specific password you need to actually remember and re-type across devices

In my personal experience, it absolutely does. Only time I’ve ever had seriously painful dry skin on my hands was when I was out of hand soap for a week. But I do wash my hands frequently.

My last car was 35 years old when I ditched it, the underside was rusted to a point of no longer being safe. Plus the exhaust kept falling off.

A car for more than like 5k. A terrifying stat is that 90% of people in my country buy their car for on finance for >10k, yet you can buy a reasonable used one for no more than 5k anywhere

There are niche circumstances where a pricey car could be worthwhile, lots of long haul journeys, need for fuel efficiency, etc, but 90% of people don’t need or benefit much from that.

I bought my current one for 1k just last year. It’s 20 years old, but it’s in perfect condition and the efficiency is not that much different from modern cars, certainly not enough to be nearly worth the extra money.

Sure is

Boom, installed, cool addon

A blocklist for malware would be safeguarding. But you can’t claim this is “safeguarding” against… completely safe software?

And it’s not exactly easily overridden, otherwise this post wouldn’t exist.

Sadly, there a few annoying things in Firefox which absolutely are not overridable at all. Firefox is heckin’ awesome, but this just ain’t true.

As a European, it’s been a long time coming. I would say tide turned in favour of it and both Ukraine and Israel-Gaza have been important factors - Most countries suddenly decided they didn’t have enough sway over public support for Western imperialism. And the big part of that has been the internet.

Sadly all those search engines directly or indirectly censor piracy results. I use DDG daily but they sadly do a lot of censoring results of various kinds, even just political.

Android is already thoroughly Linux-based ;) You just called all android users nerds!

I’m told my cute’n’calm Hexbear instance means there’s a lot of drama here I can’t see. So apologies if my tone comes off badly in the ol’ .ml context.

Rest assured I was just out for fun conversation to learn about atomic stuff :) Hope the rest of this thread ain’t too stressful.

Oof, fair enough, I certainly don’t see a lot of said ruckus. Cheers for the context.

Because I was being told the pros outweight the cons, and if I can get a better OS, then I want it? I feel like it was a reasonable question and we had a good conversation out of it.

I also put ‘normal’ in quotes myself, I obviously meant a non-atomic Fedora.

I feel like you’re coming across unnecessarily dismissively here, when I was just out for a nice conversation on the benefit of atomic setups (and got two! :) ).