With the month long heat wave.

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    60 years of doom, gloom and sure destruction which has resulted in… nothing. Your science isnt working out. Its clear that we dont fully understand how this all works as we only have data from a tiny fraction of the Earths total history. Again, the predictions that have been harped on over the last several decades have all turned out to be false of greatly exaggerated. Those are the real facts.

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        Maybe so - you’ve also made your position on this clearly evident. Question nothing, just do what you’re told. Thats cool. :)

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                The idea that whatever comes out of Govt’s mouth should just be accepted as is. There are already serious issues arising with Fauci and Covid. Remember that guy? The battle cry was trust the science and shut up, little cretins. I dont want to go off on any Covid tangent but the idea that you just blindly accept what anyone tells you when it comes down to your lifestyle, standard of living, etc. should just be swallowed up without any questions is wrong, IMO.

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      The doom and gloom predictions have always been about slow but inexorable changes in the climate. Not that suddenly a mega hurricane is going to rip Florida out of the ground and toss it into the ocean, but that weather is going to get worse and more extreme, that sea levels will rise, and more and more places will gradually become uninhabitable as conditions get worse. There won’t be single things that you can point to and say “that one was global warming”, it’s about trends that are harmful for us in the long term. If you eat a chocolate bar’s worth more calories than you burn every day, it sounds like doom and gloom to say you’ll gain 200 pounds if you don’t change anything, and you won’t be able to point to any one meal as something to be concerned about because that’s not really out of the ordinary for a day… but slowly and steadily, you’ll gain weight, and if nothing changes you will get there eventually.

      And even though you aren’t owed dramatic destruction, and shouldn’t require it to believe the thousands of people who study this as their life’s work and all agree that things are dire and not getting better fast enough… you’ve literally just lived through the hottest twenty or so days in recorded history. Is that a coincidence, do you think?

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      30 years ago it was predicted that the Gulf stream would collapse and that’s about to happen in the next years. Coral reefs are dead and in general dead zones in the oceans are spreading more and more. You can’t get insurance in some US states anymore, but that all nothing, since it’s not threatening enough for you personally?

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      I’m not even going to bother giving much detail because it seems like it won’t matter, but just about everything you said in this comment is wrong. We’ve had the hottest temperatures on record this year, and this has happened many time for years slowly getting worse. How is that nothing? Sure, we’re not dead, but no one (reasonable) predicted that.

      As for the data we have, it goes a lot longer than human history. There are many ways to get that information. We also know CO2 traps heat better. You can test this yourself if you feel like it. It’s simple stuff to understand, but some people want you to think it’s the “elite climate scientists” pushing something you can’t understand.

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        Why is it wrong? Climate disasters have been being predicted and spewed about for a long time. What I understand is that there is more here than meets the eye. Look into more and you’ll understand better. Try sources without agendas for best results.

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          Climate disasters have been happening. You’re just told that they were supposedly predicting sudden collapse, which is not the case. It’s a slow ramping up, eventually becoming (likely) unstopable but still it will be relatively slow.

          For example, ice is white so it reflects sunlight (aka heat). As it melts, the reflective index of the earth decreases and we absorb more heat, melting more ice, reducing the reflective index, and so on. Here’s the arctic sea ice levels, including for 2023 so far. It’s way down. It’s just data and doesn’t have “an agenda.” The people telling you that some other people have “an agenda” have an agenda though.