Someone paying $800 a month for their rent is gonna have paid $470,400 by the time they retire. That’s like two fucking mortgages for the “service” of not being homeless.
It’s just restructured feudalism at this point. We’ve abstracted away the direct relationship between landlord and serf, but over half our labor is still going to some third party doing none of the work.
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most successful proletarian revolution resulting in almost perfect redistribution of land.
Those were not vacation days, just days where they could till their own fields instead of their lord’s. For most people life then was full of backbreaking labour, illiteracy, disease and the constant looming threat of starvation. There is no need to romanticise feudalism.
I’m actually seriously considering selling and going back to renting to get my flexibility back. I really despise being tied down to physical location, and the constant threat of having to move for a different job makes it even worse.
Probably won’t sell in the current market, but when it makes a bit more sense.
They clearly are wealthy enough that their brain is half rotted, causing them to say things like “I’ve seen many people living in poverty because they refuse to move”
It’s not that I necessarily want to. Jobs just usually end one way or the other after a while. In my experience, renting really opens up the job market. Move wherever the new job is. That’s a lot harder when you own.
Yeah, I guess everyone has different priorities. I just refuse to let myself or my family live in a crappy situation because I want to stay in a specific location. I often see people living in poverty because they refuse to leave a place to take a job elsewhere. Doesn’t make sense to me, but everyone has their own life.
I’ve moved a ton. It has never cost me anything other than the cost of renting a moving truck and sore legs for a few days. Certainly beats living in a place with no job or some random low-paying job.
Yeah I mean, I came from a very poor region and it was hard to move for me, but it was made easier because my family was beginning to cut me off for being queer anyway and I had the privilege of WFH too. I know lots of people who’d move out of their region if not for their family supporting them in some way they can’t get elsewhere (or they don’t think so, atleast).
I’m the same as you, but I recognise that I had the privilege of being born in the capital of a very centralised country so there’s little reason for me to move to better my lot. If I’d grown up in a deprived former mining town up north I’d probably have been long gone as soon as I could.
What would you do if you lost your job and couldn’t find anything in your current location?
In the current high-interest market I’d probably rent out the property and rent something else wherever the job is located. But then you have to be willing to be a landlord. Some people aren’t.
As I said to someone else Futher down, I recognise that I’m privileged to have been born and live near the capital of a very centralised country so I never really need to worry about moving for work as I’m already where the highest wages are. I just got so miserable as a renter moving so much and never feeling like I had an actual home I couldn’t go back to it now I’m settled.
Got it. That’s just not the situation of most people. They have to move for a job or live in a terrible situation. I’d move in an instant rather than live in crap.
I’m paying some guy’s mortgage but he gets to keep the house at the end.
Someone paying $800 a month for their rent is gonna have paid $470,400 by the time they retire. That’s like two fucking mortgages for the “service” of not being homeless.
It’s just restructured feudalism at this point. We’ve abstracted away the direct relationship between landlord and serf, but over half our labor is still going to some third party doing none of the work.
If you like your feudal lord, you can keep them!
If you don’t like your feudal lord, you also keep them!
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most successful proletarian revolution resulting in almost perfect redistribution of land.
Fun fact, the benefits persist to this day. Nearly 90% of people in China own their home http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-05/15/content_15295765.htm
Feudal serfs got way more vacation days than us
Those were not vacation days, just days where they could till their own fields instead of their lord’s. For most people life then was full of backbreaking labour, illiteracy, disease and the constant looming threat of starvation. There is no need to romanticise feudalism.
I’m actually seriously considering selling and going back to renting to get my flexibility back. I really despise being tied down to physical location, and the constant threat of having to move for a different job makes it even worse.
Probably won’t sell in the current market, but when it makes a bit more sense.
People who worry about “flexibility” are aliens to me
How are you in a material spot to just bounce around because you want to?
This person admitted they won’t actually carry through with it, they just want to sound like a wealthy person.
They clearly are wealthy enough that their brain is half rotted, causing them to say things like “I’ve seen many people living in poverty because they refuse to move”
Absurd
Moving across state lines is simple. Just reserve a U-haul box truck and off you go!
Literally, when I told them they were detached from reality they responded “what? No I’m not, it’s not expensive I just rent a truck and move!”
I got a new job after the pandemic and got 3k in relocation compensation, and that didn’t even cover the most bare bones of a move.
I like the flexibility too, I just wish I could have it without giving some leech half my paycheck.
It’s not that I necessarily want to. Jobs just usually end one way or the other after a while. In my experience, renting really opens up the job market. Move wherever the new job is. That’s a lot harder when you own.
I just can’t imagine leaving my community so easily for a job I guess, but I imagine plenty of folks must do it all the time.
congrats on having a community.
i hate it here get me out
Find a big queer city >:) even if you aren’t queer there’ll be plenty of fine folks and communists abound
Yeah, I guess everyone has different priorities. I just refuse to let myself or my family live in a crappy situation because I want to stay in a specific location. I often see people living in poverty because they refuse to leave a place to take a job elsewhere. Doesn’t make sense to me, but everyone has their own life.
People don’t live in poverty “because they refuse to move”
They live in poverty because they are stuck there, and moving to somewhere else is incredibly expensive and difficult
Your worldview is utterly detached from the reality of the common person
Not sure how that’s “detached from reality.”
I’ve moved a ton. It has never cost me anything other than the cost of renting a moving truck and sore legs for a few days. Certainly beats living in a place with no job or some random low-paying job.
Okay lol
Yeah I mean, I came from a very poor region and it was hard to move for me, but it was made easier because my family was beginning to cut me off for being queer anyway and I had the privilege of WFH too. I know lots of people who’d move out of their region if not for their family supporting them in some way they can’t get elsewhere (or they don’t think so, atleast).
I’m the same as you, but I recognise that I had the privilege of being born in the capital of a very centralised country so there’s little reason for me to move to better my lot. If I’d grown up in a deprived former mining town up north I’d probably have been long gone as soon as I could.
As someone who had to move 5 times I four years due to landlords and am now in my seventh glorious year in my own flat, that sounds mental.
What would you do if you lost your job and couldn’t find anything in your current location?
In the current high-interest market I’d probably rent out the property and rent something else wherever the job is located. But then you have to be willing to be a landlord. Some people aren’t.
As I said to someone else Futher down, I recognise that I’m privileged to have been born and live near the capital of a very centralised country so I never really need to worry about moving for work as I’m already where the highest wages are. I just got so miserable as a renter moving so much and never feeling like I had an actual home I couldn’t go back to it now I’m settled.
Got it. That’s just not the situation of most people. They have to move for a job or live in a terrible situation. I’d move in an instant rather than live in crap.