https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671
What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?
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Why do Android manufacturers keep turning their phones into iPhones? If I wanted an iPhone, I’d buy one.
Prolly cos they sell like hotcakes.
True, but they shouldn’t be the only option. A big part of why they sell the way they do is brand recognition.
At this point I dunno anymore why they sell the way they do. Sure, hardware is really great. But the OS is lagging behind Android, CoreAudio aside. Apps are fine if you work around iOS’s limitations. Still people really like the ecosystem or are they poor brand followers? Dunno.
Vendor lock-in is a big one. Losing access to your purchased games/apps and having a harder time bringing over your music and video libraries could turn people off, even if F2P games and streaming have made these less relevant. There’s also the matter of switching cloud storage providers
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Amazing!
Apple has never been about having options. They have always believed that the customer doesn’t know what they want. They enforce whatever they think is best, and provide no ways to change it.
After years of eSim, wanting eSim, asking for nothing but eSim, I’m done with eSim. Having an argument with a T-Mobile rep in store on whether or not my Pixel 7 has an eSim made me no longer want eSim. I want my phone and its service to be as self service as possible, and managing my own sim seems to be my best option.
I mean, technically an eSim at its simplest is just a QR code provided to you by your provider, just like they provide you a SIM card. None of their fucking business whether your device supports it.
TIL apple doesn’t have Sim slot.
If you buy this pixel from Verizon, and use it as trade in for, say, samsung phone via their website, how are you supposed to get Sim service switched? You don’t have Verizons phone (because you sent it to them), and your new phone doesn’t have service (because they sell you a blank unlocked phone), nor is it connected to Verizons towers. You’re going to be…expected to go to verizon? Use someone else’s phone?
Like using someone else’s car at the dmv for driving tests, it’s horribly reliant on external factors and is fuckin’ duuuuumb
You take the phone you get to Verizon before you send your trade out. You say, give me a SIM for a phone that doesn’t support it or switch my number to this phone via an eSIM.
Most companies send you the new phone first and you have time to send the trade-in after the fact for a set amount of days. If you do this from Verizon to Verizon as another example the new phone should activate with an eSIM out of the box and move your number. If not, Google is working on a tool to fix that:https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/
This is not any offense to you as your questions are relevant and reasonable, but this post has proved my point that Lemmy users know jack shit about security and why this is a good change. If you want learn there is a good podcast that elaborates on the issue with current physical SIM standards: https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/
Oh, look more Lemmy users not understanding security, again. All because they hate big Apple and change because Apple did something is bad.
I am convinced Lemmy users are more prone to let their bias get in the way of actually understanding the benefits of this change and the reason this is going away.
If you want to educate yourself.
https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/118/
If you want a summary because you don’t want to listen to a podcast or read the transcript of a podcast. There is a lot of theft occurring at the SIM card level in phones. This change is a bigger benefit than it is a negative. Is it annoying? Sure? Does it change how the phone functions? No.
Most phones can’t dual SIM, and phones that do typically have issues. I am convinced this will quite literally not affect any of you, and if anything it protects the average consumer.
Pixel and iPhone have been doing eSIM for a while and I personally use a Google Fi number and First Net number. If you are wondering how the number transfer process will work then here is another article about how that is going to be handled: https://www.droid-life.com/2023/08/22/first-look-at-androids-native-esim-transfer-tool/
This means no one can just take your SIM card. They need to fully get into your phone. If you are worried about number transfer from telecom company to telecom company then you should know that is also already being handled and both Verizon and AT&T have implemented this change to their systems. You just transfer the number like normal and the systems generate an eSIM for you.
This is a win for security of your phone, you, and for your number.
It seems like the people that left Reddit for lemmy are mostly super biased in some way and highly argumentative. No one here is willing to have a discussion and recognize valid points from the other person, even if your opinion differs.
When it comes to this change I have personally not seen a valid point. The argument is being compared to the loss of battery swapping. These are not comparable in anyway is the issue. If you want to argue that you should be able to swap batteries in phones then I agree you should be able to.
However, eSIM versus physical SIM is an actual security advantage and a good change and the methods we will use to transfer them is all that will be different. The podcast transcript above is a good source for understanding why this is fundamentally different. Losing the ability to swap a battery sucks. However, there will be ways to swap a SIM while still keeping the end user safe and honestly even safer and it doesn’t change how a SIM functions for your use of the phone. You could still swap a battery and an eSIM would literally not make a difference. The point is that you are not losing anything with no physical SIM your freedom to what you want with your phone hasn’t changed in the same way that you can’t replace your own battery because and eSIM can’t be stolen or lost the same way a physical SIM.
I think Lemmy users are absolutely far more biased than they think and I have leaned in the few months I have been here that often times they just stick their way of thinking to something without even asking why this kind of change could be a good thing.
I have also found that Lemmy users don’t know shit about security and privacy like they think they do. Lemmy as an app being the biggest example.
Do people not remember how fucking annoying this shit was before physical SIM cards? Who in the ever loving fuck is asking for this??
No one is asking for it. That won’t stop Google from continuing the enshitification of everything they can.
