• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I think a serious conversation needs to happen on if arteta should still be our manager.

    We are back to the donut of sadness

    No ideas

    No forward passing

    No urgency. Everyone just standing there looking around or taking 7 touches before passing it to the guy who has been open the entire time

    No scoring goals. No taking people on. Everton had a geriatric at right back and we didn’t go by him once.

    No runs into the box. No interplay in the middle. Our entire strategy seems to be pass it wide and hope to win a corner.

    I appreciate that we’ve been brought back to the top table the last two years but now we need to either really kick on or we go back to our bullshit years.

    You will not win a title with Havertz and Jesus. Buy a striker. Buy a midfielder. Buy an actual left winger so Martinelli can be our sub.

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      4 days ago

      I think he still should, but with caveats. I don’t want rid of Arteta, certainly not this season, but the clock is ticking and he needs to deliver a trophy soon. We need to sign a proper striker and a couple of other players in the summer, and we have to win a major trophy next season if we’re unable to this time around.

      We’ve come a long way under Arteta, but it’s time we started to see silverware.

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        4 days ago

        If we keep saying next season we are gonna turn into spurs and that is a frightening thought

        I’m not saying he hasn’t brought us forward and we shouldn’t be thankful

        But I think at this point a trophy this season is the minimum and we only have the fa cup and the champions league to go for. Im not entirely sure we will be able to win the champions league but I would love to be wrong there

        One more year he will buy two more centre/left backs and call it a day. Havertz should be a sub. Not a starter for a league winning team

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          4 days ago

          The problem isn’t Havertz. Havertz was putting up world class numbers at the end of last season and decent numbers coming into this season, but then Arteta moved him and his role has changed. He’s playing a lot deeper and keeps dropping into midfield. Those tactics would kill even prime Messi.

          The tactical decision making was criminal, the substitutions were nonsensical. Someone said it on one of the videos, Arteta has been too scared to lose this season and it’s costing us. When Ødegaard was out, he didn’t give Nwaneri a chance and now he expects him to do what in the 20 minutes.

          I’m not Arteta out, but our biggest hindrance this season has been him.

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            2 days ago

            World class numbers? Havertz hasn’t once put up world class numbers in his life.

            He hasn’t once scored above 20 goals a season. That used to be the bare minimum for a top striker to be considered as having a good season

            Did you forget Messi and the false 9? Pretty sure the little guy did perfectly well in that exact role.

            Arteta has always been trash with substitutions. Since the very first season.

            It’s 5 years of the same old and now we are regressing to the mean. I know he’s not going to get fired this year but if he does not buy a striker, winger, and midfielder to replace Martin we will be stuck saying next year again. If he does buy those 3 positions this season or in the summer and we still win nothing, arteta needs to go.

            Can only spend so much and get no results from it. His football is cowardly and he never goes for the kill.

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              2 days ago

              He finished the season with the equivalent of a goal every other game, a record he maintained pretty much until now

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                2 days ago

                He scored 13 goals in 37 appearances. Yes that is almost a goal every other match. But no, that is an awful return for a striker at the top of the league on a team aiming to win the title. You need a 20 goal a season striker to win the league

                13 players finished with more goals than him last season. Including Chris wood.