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    8 months ago

    Well, the definition of being vegan is eating plants only. The part about animal sufffering is a justification of being vegan.

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      8 months ago

      Well, to be more precise, vegan stands for the lack of an animal’s influence in a product. This distinction is important as mushrooms/fungi are not categorised as simple plants, vegetables, fruits, legumes, nuts and so on.

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        8 months ago

        Lack on animal exploitation*. If you find a dead animal while dumpster diving or a roadkill and you bring home to eat, it’s vegan because you’re not contributing to the exploitation of living sentient beings.

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          I would argue that roadkill is a product of human exploitation of the environment as a whole, so roadkill isn’t vegan.

          Also, if roadkill is vegan you know you’re going to get some psycho with a massive cow catcher on the front of his pickup who’s “vegan” because he only eats what he runs down in his truck.

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            There is a difference between accidental deaths and intentional killing. Veganism is about stopping animal exploitation as far as possible and practicable.

            Accidentally killing an animal and eating their flesh is something completely different to deliberately killing an animal and eating them.

            If you happen to find a dead animal and eat it, you are not exploiting them for their life, just their dead remains.

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            8 months ago

            By that definition, animal testing is vegan as long as the end result doesn’t contain an animal product, which is not. Veganism is about not exploiting animals as far as possible and practicable.

            Cultured meats will be vegan, accidental roadkill is vegan, as well as dumpster diving, because you’re not exploiting living sentient beings for that.

            You can check out more info on the history of veganism: https://www.vegansociety.com/about-us/history

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              8 months ago

              Bro is arguing with the fucking dictionary, I can’t even… I don’t know what to say. I just want to say you’re kinda reaffirming some stereotypes about vegans and I’ll end it at that.

              • lalo@discuss.tchncs.de
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                8 months ago

                No need to be pedantic. I’m pointing you to the Vegan Society, who actually created the term vegan. I’m merely trying to educate you on the topic. The dictionary definition is simplifying an entire philosophy, otherwise vegans would also be okay with horse and dog races, horseback riding, using animals as labor and other forms of animal exploitation.

                Quote of the important part of the article (highlights by me):

                The word vegan was coined by Donald Watson from a suggestion by early members Mr George A. Henderson and his wife Fay K. Henderson that the society should be called Allvega and the magazine Allvegan.

                Although the vegan diet was defined early on it was as late as 1949 before Leslie J Cross pointed out that the society lacked a definition of veganism and he suggested “[t]he principle of the emancipation of animals from exploitation by man”. This is later clarified as “to seek an end to the use of animals by man for food, commodities, work, hunting, vivisection, and by all other uses involving exploitation of animal life by man”.

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      8 months ago

      That’s not the definition of veganism at all. It’s actually not even the definition of a plant based diet since plant based dieters eat fungi and yeast.