I’m not sure those numbers are as rosy for your argument as you’d think. You’re not considering the possibility of someone that does think it’s genocide and wholy approves of it. Which does exist, the “glass em all” types like my father.

I’m pretty sure it all balances out, because other polls are showing it’s still Israel with the popularity advantage even with the downturn.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/611375/americans-views-israel-palestinian-authority-down.aspx

It’s especially telling that desire to pressure the Palestinians to compromise is dropping faster than the increase to pressure Israel: it’s either people just becoming wishy washy or intentionally wanting the conflict to continue until Israel wipes them out. (Kinda wish Gallup didn’t nix the differentiation between those options tbh).

The polls are wrong as long as they keep clashing with electoral reality. Nate Copper’s article is heavy on poll data but flimsy on electoral anecdotes: a county election in 2020 and New York Elections with inconvenient data lopped off (The recent elections to replace George Santos).

The shift the polls are claiming are so seismic that it begs the question why this unprecedented shift is non-existent in basically every post-dobbs election. And let’s not forget the fact that these polls present other, nonsensical trends to like the elderly shifting hard to Democrats too: a shift that can’t easily be waved off by the usual “The shift is only in voters that only vote in presidential elections” excuse.

A lot of folks here are rightfully pessimistic about this being the actual end, considering the past history of articles like this.

I’d like to present the possibility that the GOP is crumbling BECAUSE of why those years weren’t the end for the GOP like articles predicted: Trump is inflicting the same institutional damage to the RNC Obama inflicted on the DNC. The same kind of damage that gave an opening for Republicans to revitalize themselves.

The only problem is whether if there will be enough rot by this year’s election: the biggest evidence of the DNC’s shrivelling under Obama’s shadow was the 2016 election where Hillary basically saved them from death in exchange for fealty. It’s not entirely clear if the 2010 losses were from early damage or just the upswell of reactionary outrage to Obama’s presidency.

Question: what party is Sinema in now?

It’s pretty evident now Sinema could not be bullied if she was willing to immolate her career over even the soft demands made of her.

There was actually some news recently that these polls might actually be wrong here: apparently there’s a large amount of people lying that they’re Hispanic/young in online polls. This was discovered both because: 1. The “20% of youth are Holocaust deniers!” Poll that made the waves wasn’t reproducible and 2. There’s some BIG inconsistencies being found in many polls too, like some polls somehow managing to have a cohort of Hispanics that are 20% nuclear submarine engineers.

Basically, we might have a vicious cycle making polls wildly inaccurate here: youth (and Hispanics?) are harder to poll -> pollsters value the data more vs other demographics-> people lie to obtain the rewards being offered to get this data -> youth/Hispanics become harder to poll.

Polls usually can handle some “lizard man’s constant”, but everything falls apart if there’s significant lying.

I was reading exactly that actually: 81% of them refuse to vote for Trump if Haley isn’t the nominee. It’s surprisingly doable just from the primary numbers.

Edit: Also, Republicans nominated a literal Holocaust denier for the governor candidate. That’s gonna make that race A LOT easier and maybe effect the entire ballot there.

I think the biggest lesson tonight is it’ll be political malpractice if Biden doesn’t pour a bunch of resources into NC. For a closed primary, those exit polls are suggesting a huge amount of Haley voters are persuadable.

They won’t, but Colorado should still keep him off the ballot. The ruling was clearly made in fear of chaos instead of what was correct, so they deserve chaos irregardless.

Or at least make a show about it, like all those states did when Texas was told to let the fed agents cut the razor wire.

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