Bahnd Rollard

Painting in broad strokes here as its been over a decade since D&D v4 and WoWs high-water mark, I think people call it that because of several factors, not all of them in the game design of v4.

• It was the begining of the trends that we see today in 5e where the stock classes were designed to fit the archtype, not the style. If you played something out of the base books, it just had to work and character progression was boiled down, you had to try to brick your character.
• This was also around the time when WoW was changing its mentality to “bring the player, not the class”. This still holds up today where they design content around the players being there, not what was there. Fewer class specific shortcuts or tricks, unique traits. No one single common ability is unique to a class. For example, need temporary invuln to eat one hit that causes max damage, bring a pally, mage, or hunters.
• The migration from 3.5 to 4 left a void in class/race variety as the prestige classes took a while to convert to the new system, many were lost. Like when Disney bought Starwars and threw all the extended universe content out. D&D 3.5 had an alarmingly high number of suplimental books.
• The increase in charts in v4 felt like they could have fit more in with a PC RPG, I do realize the irony in the success of Pathfinder 1 as it just took that “charts for days” concept and ran with it.

D&D v4 to me will always be the MMO version because it was a product of its time, and also WotC scrapped pretty quickly, relativly speaking.

It felt like they were trying to make an MMO be a table-top game at the time when WoW was at the height of its popularity (that WotLK nostalgia). Its not that it was overly bad, it was a square peg, round hole situation.

These days I feel like 5E has no teeth, very good intro but beyond the first few campaigns and the endless art books its mechanically uninteresting. Pathfinder 2e has been what most of my games have converted to.

Classic meme.

Oh, that one was a blast! I need to get my nerd herd to revisit it… Although all we did was play liars dice while the ship was on fire.

This was very helpful, you are an amazing human.

These may be answered elsewhere, but like some other interested people in this post, I fully intend on trying to load a copy of this when I get home from vacation.

What methods/devices do you use to upload/sync the data? Other than a regular smart phone, were you able to use other GPS enabled devices like garmin or apple smart watches?

And system requirements?

Narrator: He won’t…

46 should know not to debate 45 because 45 is an idiot.

Never get into arguments with idiots, the will drag you down to their level and beat you with expirence.

Besides, we havent had a real debate since the advent of cable TV… Just dont bother of your not in it for the spectacle.

Cat.

The Jojo memes were the friends we made along the way.

American FP4 user here.

You may actually be fine, check the 5G bands in use with your national regulatory body and see if there are any missing parts. State side, T-mobile is the only carrier I can use and their 5G bands are missing pieces of what the phone thinks are avalable channels. It corrects them quickly enough for buffered data to have no issues but it drops calls randomly when switching towers… also T-mobiles network is sorta sucky…

If your country uses GSM, order an EU phone, slap in a sim card on a network that accepts unlocked devices and you should be good to go. If you are on CDMA, wait till Q1 2024 and order one from the states. There are plans to include a custom security and privacy focused android ROM with it, but im happy with my organic euro phone dispite its quirks.

You insensitive clod.

Seconding the Fairphone.

FP4 is coming to America in Q4, I ordered one from the EU last year and it will work just fine everywhere else in the world, it has quirks in the US.

Enjoy your organic smart phone.

US FP4 user here, I ordered the EU model and had it shipped over, works well enough, minor radio issues and a lack of carriers (Im locked to T-mobile). Im very excited for the US release as I can then recommend the phone to others who dont have to pay the adopters tax.