2 Kings 2:23-24: A story about what happens when you make fun of bald dudes

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  • Perhaps there is a tonal message in your words that you didn’t intend (your native language seems to be German?). This paragraph comes across as dismissing my comment while making a sweeping, inaccurate, and baseless judgment that I “distrust any media that contradicts my beliefs:”

    But by you talking about “the media” I guess you are trying to find reasons to further your already present distrust in any media that contradicts your beliefs?

    Hard to see how that couldn’t be meant as, at best, a passive-aggressive dig, implying some level of instability or paranoia.





  • Have you ever asked a former member why they left? What did they say?

    I helped a person rejoin the Church when I was a missionary. It was obviously not a representative experience, but he had left at a time in his life when he was angry at members of his ward for not supporting him the way he felt he should have been supported. At the time it seemed he had felt a bit more entitled to special attention than was reasonable (keeping in mind the Church has a lay ministry and we’re all just regular people with regular lives outside of church), and he had also tried to have an affair with someone’s wife, IIRC. He had requested his records to be withdrawn because he wanted members to stop contacting him. He was a lot different when I met him than when he left the Church, and had a lot of rough life experiences that emphasized the value it brought to his life.

    I have not had any close friends or family leave the Church, so I haven’t had any opportunities to actually have a discussion about it with anyone else other than online. Those online interactions have been mostly hate-filled and vitriolic by the former members.

    Like most members of the Church, where I live I am a religious minority. It’s far more common for people to ask me questions about my faith than for me to interact with former members.




  • I have never supported Trump. I was serving my mission in 2016 when he was elected and I couldn’t find a polling place to vote, and I sort of had a favorable impression of him at first just because my family are big Trump supporters. However, many of his policies and his hateful rhetoric are impossible to square with my religious beliefs, which I consider to be mostly centrist. I think most Latter-day Saints are in a similar boat. We are serious about our religion and aren’t going to support a political leader who goes against many of our most deeply-held moral doctrines.

    The most important thing we believe are the commandments given by Jesus Christ in Matthew 22:36-40. These are summarized as “love God with all your being” and “love everyone around you as well as you love yourself”. I can’t see how it could be possible to support Trump and sincerely believe in those commandments at the same time.

    For me, however, the final straw was when Trump started speculating on live television about injecting light into people to fight the Covid virus. It was utter loony talk and I was completely disgusted. January 6th didn’t surprise me at all (Trump was laying the groundwork for it a year in advance) and at that point I almost registered as a Democrat. Now that Trump has taken control of the Republican party I’m definitely registering as a Democrat before November.