Politely, fuck Discord, and fuck anyone who thinks Discord is the right way to make anything accessible to the public.

You had me at “politely”.

Downside is that it won’t work if my internet or power is out

If it doesn’t work when your internet is out, then it’s not local.

It is very good for boilerplate code

Personally I find all LLMs in general not that great at writing larger blocks of code. It’s fine for smaller stuff, but the more you expect out of it the more it’ll get wrong.

I find they work best with existing stuff that you provide. Like “make this block of code more efficient” or “rewrite this function to do X”.

Bad take. Is the first version of your code the one that you deliver or push upstream?

LLMs can give great starting points, I use multiple LLMs each for various reasons. Usually to clean up something I wrote (too lazy or too busy/stressed to do manually), find a problem with the logic, or maybe even brainstorm ideas.

I rarely ever use it to generate blocks of code like asking it to generate “a method that takes X inputs and does Y operations, and returns Z value”. I find that those kinds of results are often vastly wrong or just done in a way that doesn’t fit with other things I’m doing.

How are you restricting internet access for it?

Did you really just try to excuse and downplay a company claiming full ownership and rights over all user’s data?

they are dumb as fuck

This isn’t an argument in the way you think it is. Something being “dumb” doesn’t exclude it from possessing intelligence. My most metrics toddlers are “dumb” but no one would ever suggest in seriousness that any person lacks intelligence in the literal sense. And having low intelligence is not the same as lacking it.

Can you even define intelligence? I would honestly hazard a guess that by “intelligence” you really mean sapience. The discussion of what is intelligence, sapience, or sentience is far more than you’d expect.

follow a stupid algo

Our brains literally run on an algorithm.

the data make them somewhat smart, that’s it

And where’s the intelligence in people without the data we learn?

They don’t learn anything by themselves

I don’t know what you even mean by this. Everything learns with external input.

I could do that with a few queries and a database.

The hell you could! This statement demonstrates you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. LLMs learn and process information in a method extremely close to how biological neurons function. We’re just using digital computation instead of analogue (the way all biology works).

LLMs have regularly demonstrated genuine creativity and even some emergent properties. They are able to learn certain “concepts” (I put concepts in quotes, because that’s not the right word here) that we as humans intrinsically know. Things like “a knight in armour” are likely to refer to a man, because historically it was entirely men that became knights, outside of a few recorded instances.

It can also learn general distances between cities/locations based on the text itself. Like New York city and Houston being closer to each other than Paris.

No, you 100% absolutely in no way ever could do the same thing with a database and a few queries.

But either way, I never considered LLMs to be A.I. even if they have the possibility to be great.

It doesn’t matter what you consider, they are absolutely a form of AI. In both definition and practice.

No, I meant the wording of you comment is terrible

Ok, sure. You can. You can also just be completely wrong at the same time.

Your comment doesn’t make sense to me.

That’s going to vary heavily based on regional laws. You cannot make such a blanket statement like that.

Ok, then it’s time to jump to another platform

Again, 100% your prerogative. No one is forced to use any of your software. The only time you must fix it is if you have a contract that outlines those conditions or you are selling licenses to customers in the EU.

There’s no equivalent to a licensed civil engineer in programming.The proper analogy is just anyone putting up those plans.

Why do you keep adding new parameters to these analogies? It’s such a simple concept but you are determined to prove your opinion, that the devs should acquiesce to your point of view, no matter what.

And if you find one of my github projects that will cause a user to violate a local law, kindly file an issue and I’ll update the README.md / consider taking it down until the issue is fixed.

100% your prerogative.

If you want to apply such a better definition, then you have an obligation to learn Rust and submit a PR to bring the project into compliance. You have a societal obligation since you are aware of the issue and use Lemmy.

You owe it to your fellow Lemmites. Lemurs? Lemmings? Whatever the term for a Lemmy user is.

Hell if they just build a playground off in the woods on their own private land but don’t take reasonable steps to prevent kids from accessing or using it then they will have their license revoked.

Sure, but if you want to extend the analogy that far, then the devs are just posting free plans online on how to build a playground. It’s the instance owners who physically build the “playground” and are liable.

Fine, that’s what matters. Then ask them to implement it or write it yourself.

And if they say no, then that’s your answer and Lemmy instances within the EU will need to move out of the EU or just shut down.

Are they allowed to do that?

Actually yes. The people that run afoul of the GDPR are the people who run the instance servers. The code writers are not the ones legally responsible.