I think the nationalist brainworms of americans do most of the heavy lifting, combined with the fact liberals are completely without principles. It’s not dissimilar to how they’ll happily use homophobia to attack Republicans or whoever the current international villain is simply because “they’re bad so it’s ok”. This same lack of principles applies to history too, which they will rewrite to suit their nationalist goals at any time with no principles or scruples. The core issue is nationalism. Anyone you can deprogram and change into an internationalist stops all of this.
This is not uncommon unfortunately. It’s actually gotten significantly worse in the last 5 years or so, like 15 years ago it was just taken as fact by literally everybody that pretty much everything in the cold war was bullshit. But with the rising anti-russia sentiment and obviously the war it’s like literally everything from that period is now just taken as fact. It’s wild. Even the extremely easy to disprove stuff like this.
EDIT: I feel like this user is a bot given how it’s gone and responded so many times below and then mixed up the conversations elsewhere.
I misspoke, it’s not 20million it’s 9million for specifically hunger. The 20million figure I used here comes from adding in clean water and curable disease. It’s still an extremely basic and charitable figure for the extremely preventable deaths that occur under capitalism.
If the CIA’s own declassified internal documents refuting the cold war propaganda that you are spouting isn’t enough for you then nothing ever will be. You’re repeating the cold war propaganda line, I’m showing you that the CIA’s own documents at the time refute it, because obviously internally you can’t lie to yourselves about the matter even if you are doing propaganda publicly about it. You don’t want to acknowledge or absorb it because it would mean having to self-crit and readjust an ideological position you’re committed to.
I think at the current point in time it’s useful for teaching early adopters and enthusiasts. A simplified format might develop at later stages when aiming to cross the gap into mainstream household adoption.
One of the things we need to achieve on the fediverse is not just getting people to move to fediverse sites and use them, but to understand why they’re using fediverse sites and why cutting out corporations is a good thing. The average person isn’t going to come over without bigger reasons to, they want their slop and will go to wherever has the most slop. Create a new culture with a reason for people to support it, use that to reach a critical mass to pump out a competitive amount of slop, then at that point you’ll drag in the mainstream.
This standardisation has already proven itself for multiple years now, with millions of people using it over on Mastodon. People will get used to it. The “this is unfamiliar and scary to me” reaction goes away as the familiarity develops over time.
I think the nationalist brainworms of americans do most of the heavy lifting, combined with the fact liberals are completely without principles. It’s not dissimilar to how they’ll happily use homophobia to attack Republicans or whoever the current international villain is simply because “they’re bad so it’s ok”. This same lack of principles applies to history too, which they will rewrite to suit their nationalist goals at any time with no principles or scruples. The core issue is nationalism. Anyone you can deprogram and change into an internationalist stops all of this.