When I say centralization I don’t mean letting a few control the many. This is what I mean.

1. Figure out what the alternatives are for these sites we don’t need several Twitter alternatives.

2. Each site needs a front page, Accessible on the Fediverse front page. This allows people to easily make an account.

3. There should be one main site which will be the largest instance, people can edit the UI to feel how they like, but we need to allow communities to grow big.

4. To safe guard against point 3, fund the sites with 100s or thousands of co-equal owners. Say you get 5K people donating $5 a week to each site, they each get 1 stock or piece of the “company” and now it prevents a reddit or twitter situation.

5. The final thing, we need Fediverse user accounts, where once you make an account on 1 site you are automatically signed up to all of them and anyone can follow/subscribe and follow on all platforms, leading to a more cohesive biome

There is going to need to be some centralization of some form for this to work. The fediverse is a mess right now but its such a good idea.

oh thank you for this. That helps that specific issue.

I love this leave it up to the individual. Someone who knows how to code please do this.

While I can see why people might prefer it that way, we are preventing communities from growing and allowing people to find communities who might want to switch from Reddit. If you prefer the UI of one to another now you have to create a brand new community which is going to take time to fill. I use old.lemmy.world because I like the old reddit UI

The only thing I have a problem with is it lacks so many small things old reddit has, hard to explain. Fix them and it’s perfect.

1. Show posts and comments separately on a profile.
2. Seeing comments should require us to click the big children not small + on controversial comments.
3. Allowed videos to actually be posted.
4. Show a number on the mail not just a red outline.
5. But this is pedantic seeing karma totals.

The first 4 would really help

It’s undeniable that this UI is superior to all other formats of messages boards

Reddit started in 2005 and actually used bots to give the illusion of activity before it got big, it was a place for communities to have a hub and explore others when nothing like it had existed. Lemmy doesn’t have that luxury people who don’t like reddit for 1 reason or another will go to Lemmy if they know it exists.

Somehow make enough to pay for a legit ad

You think people didn’t used to have jobs?

Back then videos were a lot less produced and more raw style. When I first started using/watching youtube in 07 content was a lot quicker to make.

“Quality” is subjective and doesn’t necessarily require much money.

The requiring money isn’t about cost to produce its the time it takes. Most successful channels now have several hours of editing for each video because the average standard of videos now looks like it could be produced for TV.

Thousands of people already are. Myself included. And it’s not “just for fun”, it’s because we don’t want to subject ourselves to abusive and invasive corporations.

I agree with this on paper, but in practice the “customer base” is currently Youtube and TikTok. If I want to create a serious channel with a lot of views and a large community I’d need to spend all my free time making and editing videos and without a real chance to monetize its just not worth it.

Most people don’t start making videos to make money. In the early Tube days there was no money.

Not anymore, people have jobs which take up at least 8 hours of their day, sleep another lets round it to 8 hours, then other responsibilities. Anyone who seriously want to make quality videos on a consistent schedule wants to make money and the end goal being to turn it into their job.

PeerTube only has 1 less avenue for monetization than YT, among dozens.

People on Youtube are much more easily able to make money and make a living. Most of it actually has nothing to do with Youtube other than the fact that Youtube provides them with a base of billions of potential viewers.

1. AdSense which is hands down the worst of them.
2. Sponsors allow people to decide who they are willing to show on their videos and makes people decent money especially bigger creators. That’s not going to happen on smaller platforms.
3. Patrion this is probably the biggest one people are able to get consistent monthly income and make Youtube their full time job.
4. Creator made subscription platforms. This is another big perk I pay for 2 curiosity stream and the history one.

No one is going to a platform thats “just for fun” because content quality will suffer and be less enjoyable for creators.

It won’t get bad there it’s the richest country and has direct democracy, CHF 5,430 post tax median salary. There’s nothing for an authoritarian party to say to convince voters who are the wealthier people (actual citizens) of Switzerland

Also the average assets for adults is over $700K they’re too rich to fall to power hungry parties

Switzerland is probably the country most likely to leave everyone alone lol. Because they’re a direct democracy and extremely decentralized. Plus internationally neutral.

You are paying for the physical infrastructure. Your ISP connects the physical cables to your house/apartment that allow you to access the Internet. Google Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Safari… Are the digital portals to the web and search engines let you “serf” the web. We only pay for 1 service the physical. If we banned data we’d pay for at least 2 if not all 3 plus individual sites

What web browser are you using to get to this site? Unless you’re on dialup you’re accessing the Internet through a web browser that uses data to pay for the upkeep of the servers

It’s not a false dichotomy, the companies that give us access to the Internet like Google need to make money in one way or another, they sell our user data to other companies which then give targeted ads to us. If we banned the use of user data it would require a monthly subscription

We pay an ISP because they have to maintenance on a massive physical structure to keep running properly. We do not pay for the Internet, some websites charge money but Google and the general web is free to use.

People are ready for alternatives to Reddit, Twitter, Facebook… Can a community on reddit shutdown, and seamlessly transfer to lemmy within a few days while archiving the subreddits history? Will the new Lemmy be hands off moderation at the site level so that conversation can be had? If you can give people a yes to both people will join.

The fediverse is too complicated which I said in detail on my post on c/fediverse currently its a mess each domain has hundreds of different sites that aren’t interconnected and where you need to create a new account on each. If Lemmy had a front page like reddit and allowed for all its smaller communities to be coded and personalized to be completely different while allowing the top 25 posts every 24 hours to pop up and allowing a place to search for a specific community. We could still allow an approval process for specific communities but reddit would fall in months with how mods at reddit currently behave

If the fediverse has any chance at properly succeeding it must create a “front page” for each alternative. Lemmy for reddit for example. There is no reason why all of lemmy can’t have a front page like old.lemmy.world with each community/platform on lemmy being connected and allowing for ease of access unlike what it is currently where you need a different account for every single Lemmy site