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  • but let’s be honest, all it takes is one wedge issue to lose Progressives. They are not a vote worth pursuing

    and this advice, fellow internet peeps, is how you lose elections to fascists.

    Uh huh. I guess all those Progressives that refused to vote for Hillary because of the DNC scandal don’t count. Or all the progressives, who are very loudly declaring they won’t vote for genocide, don’t count. Or the california progressives currently decrying Adam Schiff’s (checks notes) attack ads on a Republican as actually designed to raise his name recognition so Schiffs progressive opponent would lose to a republican, don’t count.

    If you think all of the above are ridiculous reasons not to vote Dem in the general election, then you’re not the idiotic progressive fringe I’m talking about, and your vote is already secure.




  • I’ll disagree with that, as someone lemmy would classify as a moderate.

    We all know the Dems are the only adults in the room. We know they actually want to govern. We accept that the majority of them are corporate shills, but also want to improve things for the people as long as there’s not a direct conflict with corporate America.

    Most importantly, we recognize that the other party wants to pillage this country and burn down everything and hand it over to the filthy rich.

    If the Dems got into petty attacks on Republicans, you would not lose moderate voters. You may lose more Progressives, but let’s be honest, all it takes is one wedge issue to lose Progressives. They are not a vote worth pursuing. It’s getting more of the red vote, or at least creating voter apathy in the Right by branding all their politicians as the absolute clowns they are.

    20 years ago, I would say you were right. Being respectable was a draw. But actions speak louder than words, and the Republican’s actions for the last decade have been absolutely vile. Rhetoric won’t change that.










  • Trying to interpret his actual intent is pointless. That’s why his base likes him, he talks in circles, and you can attribute whatever meaning you want to it.

    But if we’re going by his actual words, he’s saying that there will be a blood bath if he’s not elected, and that the tariff is the least of the trouble that’s going to happen when he takes power.

    But his words and mid sentence topic changes can lead you to literally any conclusion.





  • I guess your answer to the age old question of “what would you do if you were in Germany when Hitler was rising to power” is:

    “I would dwell on all the problems with his opposition, and then sit smugly that I did the right thing in pursuit of ‘perfect’. It’s not my fault that Hitler took power, and I wash my hands of everything he and his followers are doing”

    To put it more plainly - loudly complaining that Biden is bad, dems are bad, etc etc is polarizing people against voting blue/Biden. You may suck it up and vote blue in the end, but look around. Lemmy is full of hardline progressives that have stated they will refuse to vote for Biden in the general election if he doesn’t cut support for Isreal.

    Criticism is fine, but it’s extremely important to keep it in perspective, and remind people to vote blue regardless, because it is not an exaggeration when we say we are literally up against fascism and tyranny.

    To put it succinctly, support for Gaza is not on the ballot. Support for continued democracy is.