Yup. The mentality is great. ‘you get a line - a 1 or 10gbit line costs us the same once it’s set up, so you pay the same price’

Thing is, yes. Yallo or wingo or all those providers are “cheaper”. But - for example in the case of yallo, you get double-natted - which means you could not really set up a home server accessible from the outside world even if you wanted to. Then, there’s also the support of wingo and yallo and so on which is… Terrible. I actually ordered yallo Internet at first because I got sold on it over the phone - the next day, before anything got shipped or anything, I wanted to annul my contract because, well, I found out about their shitty stuff. I was redirected like 8 Times across 8 levels of ‘support’ until I got it through.

I went for init7. Day it was supposed to go up, it didn’t. Phone support was competent, said everything looked ok from their end. If I was sure the problem wasn’t on my end (router, settings, fiber), they could send a technician along the next day - but if the problem would end up being on my side, I’d have to pay for it. As I was sure about what I was doing, the next morning I had a competent technician in my apartment who within 20 minutes total identified the issue and fixed it (broken fiber in the distribution center). That is good support.

I am willing to pay more to support init7, because they’re doing great work.

But yes, we have lots of low cost options. For example, I pay 23 bucks a month with yallo for unlimited 5g data, calls and SMS across the whole of Europe.

I mean, I can get symmetrical 25gbit/s for 777 bucks a year IN Switzerland. No limits, big ipv6 subnet, great provider. Init7.

Deja vu. I get it as well, especially as a kid.

Usually, not too weird.

But I guess what qualifies as ‘weird’ is that I enjoy consuming snus / oral tobacco when masturbating. And exclusively when masturbating.

Yeah, while I’m not a big hiker myself, being Swiss I know how prepared you need to be.

Walked around in Taiwan when I came across a hiking trail. 1.5 hours, like 150m verticality only, labelled as easy. Cool, but not enough water (only carried a 2l bottle). Went to a local teahouse and got me 4 more bottles to be safe and went for it. Walked past countless others because I was underprepared, and am glad I did because those could have turned out not so nice if I did go.

Used to be the case in Switzerland, now most beer bottles have a twist-to-open cap that still looks like a normal beer bottle cap.

Luckily, we don’t have that with medical insurance in Switzerland, but car mechanics sure are that way.

Need a fix on insurance? Ooh, that’ll take us 2 weeks of full time work - minimum 5000 bucks. Call them and tell them it’s not insured? Ah, that’ll be 500 bucks.

See Heise for example, they have their own instance for their news posts. It’s great.

That’s a thing of the past. Nowadays, in Switzerland you get everything unlimited for 20 a month.

In the past, messages cost 10 cents on a prepaid plan, so people started using WhatsApp for free messages at some point, and it just kind of… Stayed

I was very confused when the screen faded to black when Isobel was downed - I thought I could just get her back up

Yup, that’s my yearly salary range. That’s normal in Switzerland for an electrical engineer with a masters degree.

Even if it’s an hour or two of your salary, do you not think that sync is worth that much to you a year? It takes LJ a lot of time to develop.

Oh, and keep in mind this is with what, 1700 hours of work or something a year. I have vacation, public holidays and so on.

Depends on your country, really.

Yes, in Switzerland you’re also told gross income - yet that’s not the ‘real gross income’. There’s lots of other stuff your employer pays for you when you get hired somewhere. For example, in Switzerland, we have mandatory retirement contributions (not like social security, we also have a pension fund seperately from this), that has to be matched by an employer, 1:1.

It really depends on your country, but say in Switzerland, you have to earn a good 30-40% more money when self employed compared to being employed at a company to have the same net amount of money available at the end of the day.

I wouldn’t call it financially sustainable. It pays for the servers, not for the labor.

No offense to beehaw, they’re doing great work.

I find the pricing totally fair. You’re doing a great job.

Keep in mind lots of the complaints of ‘too expensive’ come from one of two groups - either people from low income countries, or young people.

If you asked me to pay 15 bucks a year for sync when I was 16? Hell no, I’m not paying that much money for it!

Now, at 27, it’s what I earn in like 20 minutes at my job. I think those 20 minutes A year are more than worth what this app offers.

Wow, didn’t know you can link settings. Cool feature.

Wha? A yearly ultra sub is 15 bucks. 1500x15 is 22500. 5000 times is 75000.

And that’s not ‘the same as a full time job’, not by a long shot. Google takes its cut - what, 20%? Then you have income tax, insurances etc, another 20-30% at least, and so on. So, for 5000 subscriptions, he’s left with around 42k at the end of the day.

I usually hate subscriptions that try to squeeze you for money.

In the case of sync, I see it as a recurring donation for LJ. 15 bucks is what I make in like 20 minutes as an engineer myself, so ‘paying’ 20 minutes of my salary to a developer of such an awesome app is no problem for me.

Also subscribed, not because I need the features but just to support this awesome app

Wow. Awesome. I feel so at home!