Why are all the #peertube instances defederated from each other?
Has there been drama over there or something?
- https://video.ploud.fr/about/follows is subbed to 220 instances
- https://freediverse.com/about/follows has 63 followers and subbed to 712 instances
- https://bee-tube.fr/about/follows has 92 followers and subbed to 1250 instances
Just keep clicking through those pages and you’ll see they federated. How come none of you bothered to even check out the instances themselves? This is why fake news spreads…
I think it’s just a misunderstanding. With most other Fedi software, servers federate via the users themselves following content from other servers and then the admins have control over whether to sever that connection by defederating. With PeerTube it doesn’t work that way, federation is controlled by the admin of each server in the first place and they tend to keep the list quite short (on a particular theme, or just servers by other admins they trust, or whatever).
I expect the fundamental reasons for that are the expense of hosting video content and also the risk of extremely NSFL material if you throw the doors open by default. It definitely results in a lot of behaviours that seem very strange if you’re used to the usual fedi way of doing things.
You can follow other instances in peertube as user, but it’s not straight forward. You have to copy-paste the link of the user, video, or channel in the search bar, then follow. It’s a bizarre way of doing things and mastodon has something similar too.
@onlinepersona @thegiddystitcher that’s actually what I am doing. I found I can just follow all these peertube users from Mastodon, so that’s what I do
That’s definitely the way to go for now. PT is pretty ok software from the creator pov but it’s atrocious as someone just looking to view! We’ll see how things develop, maybe that changes at some point.
Maybe Lemmy should change to that model too, if spam and objectionable material continue to be a problem.
It would be great if there was at least once instance that was federated to most of the other instances (except Nazis and porn) just so lurkers could keep track of what’s being posted via ‘Recently added’.
Does anyone know of an instance that does something like this?
Try framatubes instance. They seem to be pretty connected.
I thought so too at first but if I’m reading the ‘Following’ filter on this page correctly then my best bet would be to go with Libre.Video (although the figures reported there don’t seem to match up with those reported by the instance).
Interesting. I might need to check on that. I have discussed with framatube in the past about discoverability. Also, the kodi app had been outdated for a while. I think they’re struggling with popularity. Youtube is still the monopoly and peertube probably doesnt have that much money to throw at competing. Also the p2p stuff sparked some privacy concerns. I‘ll have a look at my peertube instance later and check whats new.
Well using Libre.Video on NewPipe turned out to be a bust. It only plays Local video, everything on Recently added and Trending fails.
I tried to use Fedilab but it wont let me lurk, requires a login to use an instance which is not possible because Libre.Video has user registration disabled.
So now I’ve added Peertube 1312 to NewPipe, it appears to be following more instances and the Recently added, Local and Trending videos are all playing. I might be sorted.
Just a thanks, I was completely unaware you could add peertube instances to Newpipe. And here I am, so thank you :ಠ_ಠ
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there is a search engine, or peertube website created by the same devs of peertube at Framasoft, to enable you to search peertube at large. go to https://sepiasearch.org/
My guess/experience.
- several spam attackes in the last few years led to a lot of defederation of poorly moderated instances.
- opt in federation model combined with lazy and/or overworked sysops
- desire to curate the recent videos feed by excluding possibly problematic federation partners.
