• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    If Biden doesn’t want to lose the votes of people who oppose genocide, he should stop supporting genocide.

    Of course, he should also stop supporting genocide because it’s genocide. But I guess he’d rather lose than miss out on being a part of it.

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      8 months ago

      And not voting ends up being support for more genocide

      Just as I said, your logic works in a situation where either options are reasonable OR, I would add, if there’s more than two options and governments are made of coalitions so you can vote for someone that will influence the party with the most vote to move in the direction that you want so they can form the government.

      Neither options apply to the USA at the moment.

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        8 months ago

        And not voting ends up being support for more genocide

        I’m voting for Biden. I also know that if he wants the votes of people for whom genocide is a dealbreaker, he needs to stop supporting genocide.

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          8 months ago

          These people would be hypocrites if they didn’t vote for him as letting Trump win means more genocide as he’ll do nothing about Gaza and leave Ukraine to fend for itself whereas a Democrat can at least be convinced to change his stance.

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            8 months ago

            Ok. So they’re hypocrites.

            If Biden wants their votes, he needs to break with the pro-genocide centrist wing of his party and stop supporting genocide. I know this will bitterly disappoint every last centrist Democrat, but you can lecture them that they can’t always get everything they want and that they need to vote blue no matter who.

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                8 months ago

                It’s not like you want anyone who isn’t 100% on board with genocide to have any right to complain now.

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                  8 months ago

                  No, I don’t want anyone who doesn’t vote or get personally involved in politics to complain about the people who get elected.

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                    8 months ago

                    If you say so. Frankly it just looks like you want anyone who doesn’t like Biden’s support for Netanyahu’s genocide to shut up.