• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Yes, trolls will often gish-gallop and this makes fact checking tedious. Still, do what you can when you can.

    Don’t attack the person, attack the position

    I have to disagree with these. Sealioning trolls run rings around us when we insist on taking the high road.

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      8 months ago

      Ok, true. I am only recently learning of that technique.

      Good point, though. I’ll update my guidance to mention sealioning and add a tip on knowing when to recognize it and quit.

      I’m a believer you should always take the high road, for many reasons. Specifically, though, if you run afoul of community / instance rules, then your responses may get modded (rightfully, mind you) while the misinformation remains because it’s technically not in violation.

      That’s actually a tactic I’ve seen in the wild: the troll will essentially goad someone into losing their temper and then report them. Basically the equivalent of the victim getting in trouble when fighting back against a bully at school.

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        8 months ago

        I like to think of sealioning, traditional fact based refuting, and old-fashioned trolling as the rock-paper-scissors of online arguments. Facts beat trolls, sealions beat facts, trolls beat sealions.

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      8 months ago

      I think this is a good point. It’s something I grapple with personally, because I’m a biochemist who is passionate about scientific communication, so “the high road” for me looks different than in many purely political discussions. I agree that there are cases when the appropriate and effective thing to do is to take the piss out of someone and not engage with their argument at all.