I dont want to get into this but, yeah, it’s just a soul-less capitalist business like 99% of other studios. The management sucks, but I know a lot of people that worked there over the years (most lost their jobs in past 4-5 years), and they are just developers passionate about making games. I know some are deeply affected by all the hate they got online.
I’m sure it’s not always easy to hear everything thrown at Ubisoft, but we shouldn’t hold back criticisms of greedy and, at times, malicious corporations just to protect their employees feelings.
Ubisoft has had a large hand in pushing and normalizing a bunch of the worst aspects of todays gaming industry:
forcing users to be always online while playing
invasive and harmful DRM
overpriced and under-developed DLC
unfinished and buggy games
boring and predictable writing
repetitive and checklist-style open worlds
extra launchers in addition to your actual launcher
removing access to games you’ve bought
All of these are things that got worse because of Ubisoft. I won’t stop hating their games until they make up for the damage they’ve caused.
Lol, just don’t buy the games, it’s that easy.
They already layoff half of their work force, you won, Ubisoft bad, Steam good.
And I’m not talking protecting “the feelings” of employee. I’m talking about literal death threat and bomb alert being send to the devs, not the executive, because of “black samurai” in a fictional game that isn’t even out lol.
extra launchers in addition to your actual launcher
removing access to games you’ve bought
Please don’t rewrite history:
Always online -> Microsoft started that trend with GFWL et al
DRM -> Industry standard, at least they don’t persecute people like Nintendo does
DLC -> No clue, patient gamer, buy the complete edition years later. I was however, under the impression that’s actually a Bethesda special, horse armour and all.
Buggy games -> Let me introduce you to Cyberpunk77
Writing -> Jap, it’s shit, like 90% of the games today because writers are expensive so “we use AI”
Open World -> BOTW is worse than contemporaneous Ubi games, 0 complaints. To this day, The Division 1 is a top 3 atmospheric and designed open worlds ever to release.
Access removal -> Pasmophobia, Destiny 2, GTAIV, any non cracked GFWL game, basically any digital purchase is not owned. The worse is really GFWL, I have a library of over 30 physical disks that I cannot play legally because reverse engineering a game’s copy protection is against the law. I have the physical copy that I paid for! Actual consequences to MS? 0 At least now we have a campaign to stop that from happening thanks to Ubi’s stupid the crew move.
Basically Ubi is not better or worse than current publishers, shit, ActiBlizz and EA are far far worse but…
Ubisoft just gets flack because Microsoft wants to buy them on the cheap. They allegedly helped stage an attempted hostile takeover in 2018 but it failed and Ubi ended up enlisting investments from Tencent. Since then MS has allegedly spent quite strongly to acquire the embattled publisher’s catalog on the cheap.
edit: The comment I’m replying to has been edited. @FooBarrington@lemmy.world is not a very intellectually honest person.
Which is absolutely rewriting history, because that is false. I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about, other than multiplayer I don’t remember always online games from Ubi. Which is funny, because the much loved doom series doesn’t let me play without a Bethesda account and that fucking shit is a single player game.
The proof that this is a FUD push from a potential buyer is that people like you have access to the Internet but still have an unreasonable position based on false premises.
GFWLlist: the overwhelming majority of these games are single player and yet you needed to be online to play them. Ubisoft didn’t normalize jack shit, that’s all on Microsoft, together with the push to pay to play online.
I’m arguing against the original comment, not the edited version. I’m amazed this type of deplorable behaviour jumped from reddit to here. What a pathetic human being one has to be to become so intellectually dishonest.
What the hell are you talking about? I edited the comment shortly after posting it, which was 5 hours before you replied. Are you mentally okay? Or are you just an incredibly dishonest person?
Like, the edit logs are fully open, everyone can see you’re lying. Why even try?
Dude, are you okay? You’re the only one wallowing in the mud (or your own poo, probably) right now. First coming in and strawmanning my points, then calling me pathetic because I edited my comment multiple hours before you read it?
I have no problem with the developers, I have a problem with the people who make decisions. AC needs actual story progression and an ending. Maybe they can make a spinoff where you can play from the Knights Templar perspective and still reuse much of the same formula, but with very different gameplay.
Likewise for other IPs, they need to move on.
I don’t buy their games anymore, but I certainly don’t trash the devs themselves, they’re just building what they’re paid to build. The problem is the choices made by those in charge, not the devs.
They worked hard to build that reputation year after year.
I dont want to get into this but, yeah, it’s just a soul-less capitalist business like 99% of other studios. The management sucks, but I know a lot of people that worked there over the years (most lost their jobs in past 4-5 years), and they are just developers passionate about making games. I know some are deeply affected by all the hate they got online.
I’m sure it’s not always easy to hear everything thrown at Ubisoft, but we shouldn’t hold back criticisms of greedy and, at times, malicious corporations just to protect their employees feelings.
Ubisoft has had a large hand in pushing and normalizing a bunch of the worst aspects of todays gaming industry:
All of these are things that got worse because of Ubisoft. I won’t stop hating their games until they make up for the damage they’ve caused.
Lol, just don’t buy the games, it’s that easy. They already layoff half of their work force, you won, Ubisoft bad, Steam good.
And I’m not talking protecting “the feelings” of employee. I’m talking about literal death threat and bomb alert being send to the devs, not the executive, because of “black samurai” in a fictional game that isn’t even out lol.
Just not buying their games doesn’t prevent them from moving the industry further into a bad direction, especially as they get more desperate.
I haven’t been buying their games since before AC2, yet they’ve had a terrible impact on the industry.
Right. Ubisoft is single-handedly responsible for everything bad in videogame. I hear it’s actually Ubi’s fault that fascism is back.
Anyway, now my coffee’s cold, thanks Ubisoft.
Nice strawman!
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No, Ubisoft shitty. Is that really so hard to understand? Do you desperately need to completely warp my position to be able to respond?
Sad.
Please don’t rewrite history: Always online -> Microsoft started that trend with GFWL et al
DRM -> Industry standard, at least they don’t persecute people like Nintendo does
DLC -> No clue, patient gamer, buy the complete edition years later. I was however, under the impression that’s actually a Bethesda special, horse armour and all.
Buggy games -> Let me introduce you to Cyberpunk77
Writing -> Jap, it’s shit, like 90% of the games today because writers are expensive so “we use AI”
Open World -> BOTW is worse than contemporaneous Ubi games, 0 complaints. To this day, The Division 1 is a top 3 atmospheric and designed open worlds ever to release.
Launchers -> Rockstar, Epic, Origin/EA, BattleNet, GoG-Galaxy, Bethesda, XboxApp, Bedrock Edition, et al.
Access removal -> Pasmophobia, Destiny 2, GTAIV, any non cracked GFWL game, basically any digital purchase is not owned. The worse is really GFWL, I have a library of over 30 physical disks that I cannot play legally because reverse engineering a game’s copy protection is against the law. I have the physical copy that I paid for! Actual consequences to MS? 0 At least now we have a campaign to stop that from happening thanks to Ubi’s stupid the crew move.
Basically Ubi is not better or worse than current publishers, shit, ActiBlizz and EA are far far worse but…
Ubisoft just gets flack because Microsoft wants to buy them on the cheap. They allegedly helped stage an attempted hostile takeover in 2018 but it failed and Ubi ended up enlisting investments from Tencent. Since then MS has allegedly spent quite strongly to acquire the embattled publisher’s catalog on the cheap.
edit: The comment I’m replying to has been edited. @FooBarrington@lemmy.world is not a very intellectually honest person.
You apparently don’t understand what “push and normalize” means.
They never claimed that Ubisoft started these, they only claimed that Ubisoft was a major factor in these practices being popularized
Which is absolutely rewriting history, because that is false. I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about, other than multiplayer I don’t remember always online games from Ubi. Which is funny, because the much loved doom series doesn’t let me play without a Bethesda account and that fucking shit is a single player game.
The proof that this is a FUD push from a potential buyer is that people like you have access to the Internet but still have an unreasonable position based on false premises.
GFWL list: the overwhelming majority of these games are single player and yet you needed to be online to play them. Ubisoft didn’t normalize jack shit, that’s all on Microsoft, together with the push to pay to play online.
Found the Ubisoft fanboy.
Can’t wait for them to crash and burn after AC: Shadows flops
Why think when you can emote right? I’m take a wild guess and say there’s an ocean between us…
Relax bro, it’s fine to disagree but you don’t have to make it personal
Please try to read properly. You’re arguing against a straw man.
I’m arguing against the original comment, not the edited version. I’m amazed this type of deplorable behaviour jumped from reddit to here. What a pathetic human being one has to be to become so intellectually dishonest.
What the hell are you talking about? I edited the comment shortly after posting it, which was 5 hours before you replied. Are you mentally okay? Or are you just an incredibly dishonest person?
Like, the edit logs are fully open, everyone can see you’re lying. Why even try?
It was certainly my bad, I’ve known the pig wrestling adage for an eternity and I still engaged. Lesson not learned probably.
Dude, are you okay? You’re the only one wallowing in the mud (or your own poo, probably) right now. First coming in and strawmanning my points, then calling me pathetic because I edited my comment multiple hours before you read it?
Get help, man. Something ain’t right up there.
I have no problem with the developers, I have a problem with the people who make decisions. AC needs actual story progression and an ending. Maybe they can make a spinoff where you can play from the Knights Templar perspective and still reuse much of the same formula, but with very different gameplay.
Likewise for other IPs, they need to move on.
I don’t buy their games anymore, but I certainly don’t trash the devs themselves, they’re just building what they’re paid to build. The problem is the choices made by those in charge, not the devs.