“People often say to me, ‘You don’t pay the authors. You don’t pay the reviewers. You hardly print anymore. The Web is free. Why do you charge?’” said H. Frederick Dylla, the former director of the American Institute of Physics and board member of the Association of American Publishers. “It sounds like a compelling argument. But it actually isn’t.”
Albert Greco, a publishing expert at Fordham University who is working on a book about scholarly publishing, said those making that argument are forgetting everything they learned or should have learned in economics class.
“There are costs,” he said. “Does The Washington Post have a paywall?”
Yes.
“So is it fair then if some high-school student wants to really follow the Supreme Court and doesn’t have the money to pay?” Greco said. “Life is a bitter mystery. We can’t give everything away for free. It’s not that kind of country.”
These assholes don’t even have a better reason for fleecing everyone than base greed, and they don’t try to hide it.
I could almost see sympathize when it came to paper publishing. Because the cost to publish was high, and not a lot of people buying. But now with electronic formats, yeah, they are total assholes in the current sense.
former director of the American Institute of Physics
arXiv, which physicists setup nearly as far back as the web, would have a word with this guy.
The web was invented at CERN practically so physicists could share research documents.
The existence of publishers for scientific literature is completely unnecessary in the modern era. They exist only to make profits to continue their existence. They don’t actually provide value anymore when research institutions can just conduct peer review and then let researchers self-publish.
They create negative value (a bottleneck) by limiting who can access research for just… aggregating and hosting articles.
No, I think he’s saying that it makes it more miserable and mysterious, but only for poor people, which he is not and therefore the status quo is good.
“Does this for profit news agency require money for information? Then surely academic research needs to require money to get the info as well! Nevermind that public funds are involved with a lot of research initially where news orgs don’t have that, we need to make a profit cuz reasons!”
These assholes don’t even have a better reason for fleecing everyone than base greed, and they don’t try to hide it.
That can’t sounds like won’t
Well, I’m convinced!
Refuses to elaborate
Sues
I could almost see sympathize when it came to paper publishing. Because the cost to publish was high, and not a lot of people buying. But now with electronic formats, yeah, they are total assholes in the current sense.
Tautology School Degree. Why not?
arXiv, which physicists setup nearly as far back as the web, would have a word with this guy. The web was invented at CERN practically so physicists could share research documents.
Elbakyan is an immeasurably more virtuous, noble and honorable person than these Dylla and Greco worms.
The existence of publishers for scientific literature is completely unnecessary in the modern era. They exist only to make profits to continue their existence. They don’t actually provide value anymore when research institutions can just conduct peer review and then let researchers self-publish.
They create negative value (a bottleneck) by limiting who can access research for just… aggregating and hosting articles.
wouldn’t it be funny if I slapped in a few ssds into an old desktop I found on the side of the road and hosted the entirety of human knowledge from it
Instead, he just takes everything from authors and reviewers for free. Is he living in a different country?
No give, only take!!!
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No, I think he’s saying that it makes it more miserable and mysterious, but only for poor people, which he is not and therefore the status quo is good.
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“Does this for profit news agency require money for information? Then surely academic research needs to require money to get the info as well! Nevermind that public funds are involved with a lot of research initially where news orgs don’t have that, we need to make a profit cuz reasons!”
Yeah lmao, that’s the worst possible argument he could give I think
“Have you forgotten your economics class?” And then compared public research to a private newspaper
Like, lmao
which is absolute ideology anyhow
wow, you’re using the everyone else is doing it argument. These are fucking children
Also the Washington Post actually pays its writers.
This is an insult to children, who are generally willing to share and kind people, unlike these corporate ghouls