• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Whatever Ubisoft does gamers will get mad… I don’t even play their games but the bashing is kind of ridiculous at that point. Just play something else, they’re almost dead anyway, you won.

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      Many people were or are fans of franchises made my Ubisoft. They’re mad to see these IPs they enjoyed being ruined, which is fair.

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        I dont want to get into this but, yeah, it’s just a soul-less capitalist business like 99% of other studios. The management sucks, but I know a lot of people that worked there over the years (most lost their jobs in past 4-5 years), and they are just developers passionate about making games. I know some are deeply affected by all the hate they got online.

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          I have no problem with the developers, I have a problem with the people who make decisions. AC needs actual story progression and an ending. Maybe they can make a spinoff where you can play from the Knights Templar perspective and still reuse much of the same formula, but with very different gameplay.

          Likewise for other IPs, they need to move on.

          I don’t buy their games anymore, but I certainly don’t trash the devs themselves, they’re just building what they’re paid to build. The problem is the choices made by those in charge, not the devs.

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          I’m sure it’s not always easy to hear everything thrown at Ubisoft, but we shouldn’t hold back criticisms of greedy and, at times, malicious corporations just to protect their employees feelings.

          Ubisoft has had a large hand in pushing and normalizing a bunch of the worst aspects of todays gaming industry:

          • forcing users to be always online while playing
          • invasive and harmful DRM
          • overpriced and under-developed DLC
          • unfinished and buggy games
          • boring and predictable writing
          • repetitive and checklist-style open worlds
          • extra launchers in addition to your actual launcher
          • removing access to games you’ve bought

          All of these are things that got worse because of Ubisoft. I won’t stop hating their games until they make up for the damage they’ve caused.

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            Lol, just don’t buy the games, it’s that easy. They already layoff half of their work force, you won, Ubisoft bad, Steam good.

            And I’m not talking protecting “the feelings” of employee. I’m talking about literal death threat and bomb alert being send to the devs, not the executive, because of “black samurai” in a fictional game that isn’t even out lol.

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              Just not buying their games doesn’t prevent them from moving the industry further into a bad direction, especially as they get more desperate.

              I haven’t been buying their games since before AC2, yet they’ve had a terrible impact on the industry.

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                Right. Ubisoft is single-handedly responsible for everything bad in videogame. I hear it’s actually Ubi’s fault that fascism is back.

                Anyway, now my coffee’s cold, thanks Ubisoft.

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            • forcing users to be always online while playing

            • invasive and harmful DRM

            • overpriced and under-developed DLC

            • unfinished and buggy games

            • boring and predictable writing

            • repetitive and checklist-style open worlds

            • extra launchers in addition to your actual launcher

            • removing access to games you’ve bought

            Please don’t rewrite history: Always online -> Microsoft started that trend with GFWL et al

            DRM -> Industry standard, at least they don’t persecute people like Nintendo does

            DLC -> No clue, patient gamer, buy the complete edition years later. I was however, under the impression that’s actually a Bethesda special, horse armour and all.

            Buggy games -> Let me introduce you to Cyberpunk77

            Writing -> Jap, it’s shit, like 90% of the games today because writers are expensive so “we use AI”

            Open World -> BOTW is worse than contemporaneous Ubi games, 0 complaints. To this day, The Division 1 is a top 3 atmospheric and designed open worlds ever to release.

            Launchers -> Rockstar, Epic, Origin/EA, BattleNet, GoG-Galaxy, Bethesda, XboxApp, Bedrock Edition, et al.

            Access removal -> Pasmophobia, Destiny 2, GTAIV, any non cracked GFWL game, basically any digital purchase is not owned. The worse is really GFWL, I have a library of over 30 physical disks that I cannot play legally because reverse engineering a game’s copy protection is against the law. I have the physical copy that I paid for! Actual consequences to MS? 0 At least now we have a campaign to stop that from happening thanks to Ubi’s stupid the crew move.

            Basically Ubi is not better or worse than current publishers, shit, ActiBlizz and EA are far far worse but…

            Ubisoft just gets flack because Microsoft wants to buy them on the cheap. They allegedly helped stage an attempted hostile takeover in 2018 but it failed and Ubi ended up enlisting investments from Tencent. Since then MS has allegedly spent quite strongly to acquire the embattled publisher’s catalog on the cheap.

            edit: The comment I’m replying to has been edited. @FooBarrington@lemmy.world is not a very intellectually honest person.

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              Please don’t rewrite history: Always online -> Microsoft started that trend with GFWL et al

              You apparently don’t understand what “push and normalize” means.

              They never claimed that Ubisoft started these, they only claimed that Ubisoft was a major factor in these practices being popularized

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                Which is absolutely rewriting history, because that is false. I don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about, other than multiplayer I don’t remember always online games from Ubi. Which is funny, because the much loved doom series doesn’t let me play without a Bethesda account and that fucking shit is a single player game.

                The proof that this is a FUD push from a potential buyer is that people like you have access to the Internet but still have an unreasonable position based on false premises.

                GFWL list: the overwhelming majority of these games are single player and yet you needed to be online to play them. Ubisoft didn’t normalize jack shit, that’s all on Microsoft, together with the push to pay to play online.

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                I’m arguing against the original comment, not the edited version. I’m amazed this type of deplorable behaviour jumped from reddit to here. What a pathetic human being one has to be to become so intellectually dishonest.

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                  What the hell are you talking about? I edited the comment shortly after posting it, which was 5 hours before you replied. Are you mentally okay? Or are you just an incredibly dishonest person?

                  Like, the edit logs are fully open, everyone can see you’re lying. Why even try?

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    How to increase playtimes and artificially lengthen the story by getting players lost AF in one easy step.

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    AC maps are so incredibly empty as is and collectibles went from something kinda fun to hunt for to being the most insufferable thing they do that I feel this will only make it worse.

    And yes I did enjoy hunting all 400 flags from the first game and the feathers in the 2nd.

    I’ll attempt to play this once it’s on sale for $20 in 6 months.

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      And yes I did enjoy hunting all 400 flags from the first game and the feathers in the 2nd.

      Really? There were way too many and they weren’t really in interesting places. I would much prefer if they had <50 and put them in cool places, but I picked up a bunch just by following normal story progression.

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    When Nintendo does this “genius game design”, when Ubi does it, well, the coment section above. We’ve lost the plot. If the game is good it should be lauded, if it’s bad, it should fail. Regardless of who are the main characters…

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      The difference is that Nintendo tends to do a pretty good job with it, whereas Ubisoft… doesn’t. I’m guessing the problem is largely with management and timelines, since Nintendo seems to wait until the game is ready whereas other AAA just ship whatever is ready by the deadline.

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        Nintendo caters to a captive audience of children of all ages that have exactly 0 critical thinking. More than half of Nintendo’s releases of the past decade were shovelware leveraging the fanbase for their characters, like Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. It’s the pepsi man equivalent of the modern era. For every masterpiece, there are two or three shovelware games with low production cost.

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          0 critical thinking

          Wow, that’s… quite dismissive of the maker of the best selling current console. The Nintendo Switch has sold more than twice the number as the PlayStation 5, which has sold about 3x more than the XBox Series consoles. If we look at total game sales, most of the top ones are Nintendo first-party or Nintendo exclusive titles. In fact, the only platform-exclusive titles on that list are Nintendo (except Gary’s mod on PC), and Nintendo has a disproportionate percentage of those most popular titles.

          Mario and Sonic at the Olympics

          Made by SEGA, not Nintendo.

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            Thank you for validating my point. Appreciated.

            Of course the cheapest console which, furthermore, is geared for children, will sell gangbusters. You know what else sells gangbusters? Roblox, Fortnite, CS skins, et al. Also geared towards children and teenagers. It’s like there’s a pattern there correlating to underdeveloped brains…

            Don’t get me wrong, I loved Zelda. A link to the past is on my top 10. I am however quite cynical and can clearly see when a company is basically predatory towards the ignorance/susceptibility of its user base.