Biden is a great candidate. He’s done a amazing job help the American public, probably 2nd only to Obama in recent history. Right wing and foreign propaganda has unfortunately been very successful at making people believe that he hasn’t done anything. Making that statement jokingly is not ridiculous.
Dismissing criticism as propaganda is what propagandists do. I won’t disagree if you say Biden is better than Trump but I will absolutely not accept that he’s the best candidate we can come up with. Even your comparison to Obama illustrates how low we’ve set the bar. Obama was not a great president unless you mean only by comparison to his recent peers. He was better than the others we’ve had in the last 40 years but that statement says more about the last 40 years than it does Obama. His biggest accomplishment was ensuring our shitty healthcare system stays in place for at least another generation. He and Biden aren’t fascist pieces of shit like all Republicans these days but I think we should be aiming quite a bit higher than that, don’t you?
Why are we comparing apples to apples? How about we compare apples to oranges, since apples aren’t the only fruit (I know we gotta remind you guys sometimes.)
Is that really a difficult question for you to answer yourself? Compare him to great presidents of the past, contemporary world leaders from other countries, potential current candidates, etc. Why would you limit your comparisons to like 8 people when there are plenty more to choose from? That’s unnecessarily restrictive thinking.
I also think it is important that we distinguish idealistic goals and candidates from pragmatic goals and candidates.
Yes, I and many others would prefer the more progressive candidates and if I had my ideal scenario, I would be able to vote for a better candidate than Biden.
Technically I do have that option, but practically I don’t. If I evaluate my practical choices, which is what is done in all elections by most voters, then Biden is a great choice for president.
Having to choose the best practical option is what probably always happened in all elections ever. Unfortunately, it is exceedingly rare to have the option between the two best candidates of their age. Maybe the voters for the 2nd and 3rd president had this choice, but probably not.
Biden is a great candidate. He’s done a amazing job help the American public, probably 2nd only to Obama in recent history. Right wing and foreign propaganda has unfortunately been very successful at making people believe that he hasn’t done anything. Making that statement jokingly is not ridiculous.
Dismissing criticism as propaganda is what propagandists do. I won’t disagree if you say Biden is better than Trump but I will absolutely not accept that he’s the best candidate we can come up with. Even your comparison to Obama illustrates how low we’ve set the bar. Obama was not a great president unless you mean only by comparison to his recent peers. He was better than the others we’ve had in the last 40 years but that statement says more about the last 40 years than it does Obama. His biggest accomplishment was ensuring our shitty healthcare system stays in place for at least another generation. He and Biden aren’t fascist pieces of shit like all Republicans these days but I think we should be aiming quite a bit higher than that, don’t you?
With what the fuck else do you want to compare him (or anything really) if not with recent peers?
How about other governments in the world, since the US isn’t the only country in the world (I know we gotta remind you guys sometimes.)
Or even other governments the US has had in the past that wouldn’t be considered recent?
Why are we comparing apples to apples? How about we compare apples to oranges, since apples aren’t the only fruit (I know we gotta remind you guys sometimes.)
Is that really a difficult question for you to answer yourself? Compare him to great presidents of the past, contemporary world leaders from other countries, potential current candidates, etc. Why would you limit your comparisons to like 8 people when there are plenty more to choose from? That’s unnecessarily restrictive thinking.
I agree with most of that comment.
I also think it is important that we distinguish idealistic goals and candidates from pragmatic goals and candidates.
Yes, I and many others would prefer the more progressive candidates and if I had my ideal scenario, I would be able to vote for a better candidate than Biden.
Technically I do have that option, but practically I don’t. If I evaluate my practical choices, which is what is done in all elections by most voters, then Biden is a great choice for president.
Having to choose the best practical option is what probably always happened in all elections ever. Unfortunately, it is exceedingly rare to have the option between the two best candidates of their age. Maybe the voters for the 2nd and 3rd president had this choice, but probably not.
Obama’s biggest achievement was getting a worse version of Healthcare that the 2012 Republican candidate implemented as a governor.