• dark_stang@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Every time a big company gets into an open source space, they try to take it over. Hopefully everybody in the fediverse recognizes that.

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      So hold on, is this an open source space, a protocol or “like email”? Which of the poor analogies people use to convey excitiement about AcitivityPub are supposed to apply here?

      Because, you know, Google got into the Linux space, into email and into open source software and it seems those survived the experience.

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        Yeah but these examples are all bigger than Google. The fediverse irrelevant in comparison. Additionally at least Linux doesn’t have such a strong network effect, since it’s not a social network. I mean I’m going to let myself be surprised. But I kinda doubt that anything good will come from it.

        The Meta business side isn’t nice folks that try to do good in general.

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        Google got into the Linux space, into email and into open source software and it seems those survived the experience.

        Try to start up your own independent email server instead of going with one of the largest providers. You will never be able to message anyone on Gmail.

        • Very much not true. All I’ve really had to do was create an SPF entry in my DNS and setup DKIM. Once that was done, it was okay.

          The guys I regularly exchange email with have had no issues getting mail from my server.

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        [Google got] into open source software and it seems those survived the experience

        Not really. Google is responsible for the open source browser Chromium, which is the base for Google Chrome, Edge, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi, etc. They dominate the browser market, and they use their position to implement features outside the web standard. Their competitors (mainly Firefox) are not able to implement the non-standard features, driving them out of the market. Classic Embrace-Extend-Extinguish.

        Google got into the Linux space

        Technically, both Android and Chromebok are Linux-based. But Google has done everything possible so that they aren’t part of the “Linux space”, to the point that Android uses a fork of version 3.x of the Linux kernel (regular Linux is now at version 6.x).

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          Google is responsible for the open source browser Chromium

          Pretty sure that was Apple, not Google. Google joined the WebKit party later. By the time Google forked WebKit the other rendering engines (used by the FireFox and old versions of IE) were pretty much gone.

          Also, Now that Google has forked WebKit, we’re back to two competing engines. And at least on the websites I run our traffic is about 45% each (and 10% other). That’s actually more healthy than it used to be (95% IE).

          Private companies embracing open source browsers fixed a broken platform, it didn’t embrace/extend/extinguish.

          Yes, FireFox is struggling for marketshare. Personally I think their biggest problem is they have a legacy code base that dates back to Netscape. It’s got nothing to do with Google.