• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    It’s because trump hasn’t been found guilty of insurrection yet.

    That’s likely to take longer than next election, which is one of many reasons our justice system moves too slow.

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      8 months ago

      A guilt verdict for insurrection was not required for any of the other people made ineligible by the 14th Amendment, why does a different standard apply only to Donald Trump?

      Couy Griffin, for a recent example, was removed from office in 2022 based on the 14th Amendment; the only thing he was found guilt of was trespassing. And after the 14th Amendment was ratified thousand of Confederates who had been convicted of nothing filed amnesty requests with Congress to remove their disqualification under the 14th Amendment because it was well understood that a conviction wasn’t required.

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      8 months ago

      14A arguments have been used to DQ people many times in the past without court proceedings.

      The Supreme Court is obviously going to put Trump on the ballot, but we shouldn’t pretend they have any justified reason to do so.

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        8 months ago

        Let’s just ignore loopholes because Republicans would never use the same one twice!

        /s

        If we fight fascism with inaction, I do t like our chances.

        We need to do shit not just say “it would happen anyways, nothing we can do”

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      8 months ago

      In a sense, yes. To be precise, the blame for this lies solely with inept, cowardly Merrick Garland, who took two and a half years to begin doing anything at all to hold Trump accountable. If not for Garland’s incomprehensible delays, the matter would have been settled well before ‘24 election season.

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        8 months ago

        No blame for the president who though Garland would be a good SC pick and then made him AG?

        I’m not saying “don’t blame Garland” btw.

        I’m pointing out one of the main reasons we’re losing so hard is we’re not even trying

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      8 months ago

      Trump’s main argument, though he doesn’t admit to insurrection, is that he isn’t technically an officer under the united states and so technically the 14th amendment doesn’t apply.

      He could be arguing, strongly, that he didn’t commit insurrection but he’s not. His lawyer basically said, “yeah, we don’t admit that but it doesn’t matter because of this technicality”.

      Its a super weak argument. Trumps lawyer gave the scotus very little reason to find in his favor other than, “if you find against us there will be a tit for tat among the states leading to chaos” which, yeah, but that’s not a legal argument.