Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.

  • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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    sEriOus ConSerVative ComMuniTy

    Literally an oxymoron and trust me, I know because I have seen more of it than any of you combined.
    It’s mostly all based on: we must make leftist cry. Such seriousness, the very core of it is fundamentally a joke.

    No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore. This is basically what modern conservatism is.

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      The sad fact is America needs an actual conservative movement that isn’t just nazis in hiding. Im not sure it can exist anymore as conservatives havent had a “normal” party in 30+ years

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        Does it though? I mean that would be better than fascism, no doubt, but what are we trying to conserve, really?

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            By private sphere do you mean people’s private lives and activities or corporate political organizations? If the former, then I agree, if the latter then those are in dire need of disruption.

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            Conservatives haven’t had fiscal responsibility in probably near 50 years. People should absolutely stop equating conservatives to fiscal responsibility. It’s a lie conservatives keep telling each other.

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            Ideally fiscal responsibility and a resistance to government intrusion in the private sphere.

            Which is what libertarians and a LOT of republicans want. But for some reason, Lemmy seems to hate libertarians even more than republicans. lol

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      No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore.

      A conservative visiting lemmy would say the exact same thing. The difference in my mind is that right-wing memes mostly leave me thinking, “No one says or believes that. Fuck you on about?”

      Same thoughts I have talking to conservatives IRL. Having only been presented with the most outlandish fruitcakes, they’ve brainwashed into thinking there are legions of fucking nutcase left-wingers out there.

      For left-wingers making fun, yeah, the memes more often reflect what the right actually says and believes.

      (Yes, I’m biased, but I try really hard to be objective.)

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        As a budding radical centrist I hate every cuck winger with equal passion. The left however has some merit to protect the minorities and at least in theory aims to reduce inequalities. The far left are bunch of unfunny idiots however

        Internet exclusive breed of far left ohhh these are people that should be branded with red hot iron

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          radical centrist

          So… Half-racist? I’m not sure compromising with bigots is something to crow about.

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            No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.
            It is a radical oppression of radicalism and rejection of demented idealism that I deliver in short precision strikes to the unsuspecting.

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                I don’t know, but it is always very entertaining. It provides sufficient level to stave off boredom in apotheka queues or waiting for mini paint to dry out

                Internet is PvP CoD mobile without shitty controls. Centrism is like the most funny cheesy class in this digital sandbox of pointless eternal arguments

                As for my real views I guess that would be what makes me the most money and convenience at the moment if I am brutally honest. Some kind of trans matriarchy capital paradise party. Let’s call it technofeminocapitalism? but generally I vote mainstream left out of pragmatic necessity. They don’t care about economic leftism after all so it aligns with my interests and goals considering I am in the upper class after all.

                If I were in the lower class I am not sure if I would vote at all. There seems to be no party that cares about the wage workers

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              No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.

              I can respect that! You and me are closer in spirit than apart, friend. Lemmy loves to say I’m conservative, but I’m actually a socialist. And I voted socialist in the election. Which is what started all of this and why Lemmy is still mad at me.

              Attention Lemmy: Me voting socialist in the election did NOT make Trump win. lol

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    And here I thought Lemmy was too small to have prominent trolls. Thanks for the head’s up.

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    I’d seen comments about this account before and noted how the phrasing and comment behavior was a dead ringer for Universal Monk’s usual bullshit. Glad to see others saw the same thing.

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    serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community? I guess I do most of my browsing in the all feed so maybe I just haven’t seen it? definitely not the instance I’d like to be on if that’s the case 😅

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      I think they’re referring to the /c/conservative community ON shitjustworks. I certainly have never experienced the instance in general leaning conservative.

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      serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community?

      No. And the person in OP’s example isn’t on shitjustworks. It says Donald J Musk@lemmy.today

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      Donald J Musk stopped posting for the better part of a week and almost all activity stopped on their comms for a while.

      Must be fun talking to yourself through different accounts :)

      Edit: reread my comment again slowly, you’ll get it :)

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        So if he stopped, then why did they ban him thinking he was me? And in OP’s post, the example says it’s a word-for-word copy of one of my comments. But I don’t have any comments that say that.

        So I’m still not even sure why he was banned. Plus, he’s still posting, so it wasn’t an instance ban.

        He’s not me by the way, so make no difference to me. But you all and your witch-hunts are getting crazy. I’m right here. No need to go seeing me in everyone else. :)

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      Universal Monk was a prolific poster around election time; he had tons of alt accounts that all posted stuff purposely made to divide the left.

      After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion, he started up the Donald J Musk accounts and repeated the cycle, this time posting far-right fascist content and trolling people with lies, disinfo, and general unpleasantness.

      It’s been an open secret for a while that they were the same user based on the MO, but apparently he fucked up and reused a comment.

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        Their favourite m.o. during election season was sealioning and concern trolling, as well as baiting people into breaking the civility rule and then reporting them. It seemed to me like they were taking pleasure from skirting around the letter of the law while violating the spirit of it.

        It was completely incredible at the time that they went on for months without getting banned.

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          baiting people into breaking the civility rule and then reporting them

          ELI5: If it’s bad enough to compromise civility over, it’s bad enough to report to get rule enforcers involved, right?

          As for the other two things (the “sealioning” and “concern trolling” parts), I guess I’d need examples here. I’ve seen people called “sealioners” simply for asking for translations, and I’ve seen people called “concern trolls” even over pointing out law violations. It invokes thoughts of what PBS calls “fallacy fallacy”.

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          As a big Umphrees McGee fan, who had previously blocked and forgot about UniversalMonk, seeing a bunch of posts talking smack about UM really threw me for a loop when it got real bad haha.

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            who had previously blocked and forgot about UniversalMonk

            And if more people did that, we wouldn’t have to have entire threads like this. People follow me around rather than block me. It’s weird. lol

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          Reminds me of all the people who were banned from editing encyclopedias due to being Scientologists. Always nice to see when people know I’m not the droids they’re looking for.

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        Tbh, it appears to me the guy is in serious mental health crisis. Social isolation isn’t great without mh support and tends to exacerbate issues. I’m wondering if it’s simply not affordably accessible to them or if it is and they broke so completely they failed to see the necessity. I remember a post they made about breaking up with their gf and that’s when the alt-right accounts became highly visible to me.

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          He also posted about being happily married; there’s really no way to know the truth about a serial liar like UM.

          Although he has serious “50-something-divorced-guy” energy. If I had to guess, his kids and ex hate him for being a right-wing scumbag and this is how he takes out his anger.

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            The only thing we need to guess, impo, is he’s in serious mh crisis and pushing him toward suicide or mass shooting isn’t a solution. Ignore or block should leave him the option of seeking professional help or spiralling of his own doing, not ours.

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              It also leaves open the option to keep being a racist, transphobic, fascist troll though, which will leave the door open to becoming a Nazi bar.

              I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s not my responsibility to play nice with the people who are attacking the people I love and those like them.

              Trolls should be made to feel unwelcome until they change their behavior.

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                We disagree. Unless we’re moderators, it’s not our job and focusing on other’s demons too much means we’re ignoring our own. Something about the abyss staring back, but that’s the beauty of the fediverse. Just like you don’t get to tell me what to do, I don’t get to tell you. I would only urge you to do some soul -searching and follow your best impulses, while waiting to serve the worst or questionable. There are other options such as utilizing block/report.

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                  Sure, if that’s what works for you.

                  But I don’t want to see Lemmy turn into a trash site like Reddit, where the worst and loudest are free to harass, provoke, and lie without consequences.

                  This user has literally dozens of alts he uses to get around bans, so I don’t see unilateral disarmament as a way to keep this particular fascist in check.

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                  Kind words. But misplaced. I’m not in crisis. Still good words though and people should listen to you. Just not about me.

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                attacking the people I love and those like them.

                I’ve never attacked anyone. Please post any proof that I advocate violence in any form. I’m a socialist.

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          Social isolation

          I’m not socially isolated though. And the gf I broke up with wasn’t an emotional post. I was talking about how she was too clingy and was mad that I dated other girls. There was nothing sad about it at all. Please post the actual comment.

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        After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion

        What accounts? I don’t have any other accounts except for Universal Monk. And I haven’t been banned. I’m still here posting. As you can see. My post and comment history is public.

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          You watch long enough, definable patterns emerge, then blow up. Fractal repetition, really.

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            I’ve seen a lot of mistaken identity occur due to people trying to grasp these supposed patterns. Emphasis on “a lot” too. Among people who have thought I’ve evaded punishment, I’ve been mistaken for (other) full blown celebrities before. It’s to the point where my copyrights have been imbued in their artwork.

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          They were all UniversalMonk@[insert instance here]. He wanted everyone to know it was him.

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      People are mad because I voted for the Socialist Workers Party for the election (my post history on lemmy.world is public, so you can see for yourself). Yes, they are still mad.

      I have no idea who the poster they banned is tho, but everyone here is saying it’s me. But that’s not me.

      I’m not even a conservative. I’m Socialist.

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      Nope, because it’s not a duplicate comment. I have no idea why the mod said that. lol

      My post history is public, so anyone can take a look.

      And I’m not a conservative anyway, so no clue why they’re attacking that person for being me. I still post everywhere, so I have no need for a whole fake conservative persona.

      It’s Lemmy though. The haters here see me in everyone they disagree with.

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      Except it’s not my username. My username is Universal Monk. This whole thread is about how they banned someone for being me, even tho it’s not me.

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    Hi guys. I don’t know who that guy is. So ya banned an innocent person. Proud of yourselves?!

    But since you’re all so obsessed with me (Universal Monk), I wrote and recorded a song for the haters: https://youtu.be/K_r-OY6L-zI

    I’ll put up on alt sites too.

    Any good choices that aren’t youtube? Thanks, friends! (Even tho ya’ll drink way too much hateraide.)

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        I think there’s some saying or something… like… “Don’t feed the troll.”

        I don’t think Lemmy has heard it though. Maybe ya’ll could look it up?

        The fact that ya’ll see me everywhere just because you don’t like what the person’s saying says way more about you all than me. But hey, welcome to the fediverse. I don’t mind the hate. But you all should at least direct it towards me instead of innocent people! lol

        Also, what about all the people who thought I was a bot? Or that I lived in Russia? Or that I was paid by Putin? Do bots record songs for Lemmy now?! Wait, did Putin pay me for this song? I hope so!

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          Truth is, nobody cares who you are or who DJM is. We see your posts, we call you an asshole, most of us move on. You’re not adding to the conversation, you’re not highlighting quality views or talking points, you’re not waving a flag of free speech. What you are is transparent as fuck, unwelcome on Lemmy, and frankly just an objective lump of fear. If all the control you have in life is posting right wing slop to piss people off then you’ll never amount to anything more than a fascist bootlicker who doesn’t even like the taste of boot. Go make another hollowed out community as a love letter to you’re shriveled ego.

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            Truth is, nobody cares who you are or who DJM is.

            Then why is there an entire thread made about it? You do realize we are in that thread, right?

            We see your posts, we call you an asshole, most of us move on

            Um, looking at your post history, seems like you def don’t move on. You reply to that guy a lot.

            If all the control you have in life is posting right wing slop to piss people off then you’ll never amount to anything more than a fascist bootlicker who doesn’t even like the taste of boot.

            I’m actually a socialist.

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              Did you confuse people talking about you for people caring about you again? What a spot of joy it must have been to have the fleeting thought that somebody might care about you.

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                Did you confuse people talking about you for people caring about you again?

                Well this is an entire thread about banning someone that you think was an alt of me. So yeah, I do think you like me. You talk about me a lot. Thanks, friend! :)

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                  So banal, you’ve come to troll to no surprise and we’re not even worth a little effort. You’ve lost your touch.

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      He started up another “thenewdonald” comm with a pinned manifesto, dude’s certifiable

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        This community is dedicated to supporting the ideals of freedom, patriotism, and standing up against censorship.

        While we honor diverse opinions, we focus on promoting positivity, constructive conversation, and a commitment to the truth. Join us as we build a platform where everyone can share their voice and contribute to shaping the future.

        Holy hell, that’s hilarious coming from that ragebait fascist weirdo!

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          Could someone show me the most fascist thing he ever said so that this doesn’t come off to me as the witch hunting style of allegations I always see?

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    He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap, I can feel it in my bones.

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      Did it occur to anyone that “triggering” those who have had or are on the verge of a complete mental break could exacerbate the issues? Like do we really want to be the straw that causes a suicide or mass shooting?

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        You ain’t wrong but also there is the classic FAFO maxim.

        If you monk says stupid shit, we can’t expect people NOT to return the favour.

        But yea if you sense somebody is not mentally well, then people best to take the high road.

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      He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap

      That sounds like you’re admitting to trolling. Are you talking about me, or the guy in OP’s post?

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        I feel approaching storms in my bones. But I’m also old as dirt.

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          Wait until you get hearing aids. My friend’s grandmother had one of those cochlear types of hearing aids, and she could hear thunderstorms before they were supposed to even occur.