• key@lemmy.keychat.org
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    Makes me kinda wish that when defederating you could select a one word label for why. Like a fixed list with several options like pedo, spam, harassment, abandoned, etc and a default of other. Make it a bit easier with a big list like this to say, oh 1000 of these 1400 all selected “racism” when defederating so it’s probably very racist and I should also defederate. But if it’s a lot of “other” or inconsistent reasons maybe I should spend a bit of time digging.

        • magnetosphere@kbin.social
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          Here’s the beginning of the Wikipedia article:

          Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxxing and real-life harassment.

          So, it’s an assholefarm.

          Although the name originated with one particular site, it looks like the name now applies to any site that serves a similar purpose. Bleah.

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          Agreed! I’m really appreciative of folks putting this kind of work into Lemmy.

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        What’s up with all the pedo instances? Why are they creating instances in an open web? Are they dumb or something? It sounds to me that just registering the domain names of some of those could be considered a crime, nevermind openly inviting and hosting CSAM.

        • Fraylor@lemm.ee
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          “Minor attracted person” the whitewashed version of the word pedophile.

  • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    Surprised Gab isn’t the record holder, it was the big deal example the fediverse advocates held up as how awesome the fediverse is at moderating itself, especially the “defed if federated with” rule instances started using to actually quarantine the users from Gab

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    Does kiwifarms.cc even exist anymore? I remember hanging out there while the main site was under maintenance, but it seems to have gone offline since then

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      Not sure why this is downvoted, but’s been down for longer than a week according to isitdownrightnow.

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        Not sure why this is downvoted

        Because people hate Kiwi Farms. The reason why people hate them because KF haves freedom and it’s unkillable.

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          People frown upon doxxing and stalking, the law does so too.

          Especially if it is just to push people into suicide.

          Any sane person would hate KiwiFarms. They are the degenerates of the internet. Akin to skinheads. Anyone who identifies as one of them should be banned, IP blocked and seriously beaten if encountered in real life.

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    It’s funny/sad the stark contrast between the ones where you can’t really tell why they’re defederated from just the name vs the ones where it’s extremely obvious (and how little in-between there is)

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    Eientei? From touhou? Wonder what’s in there. Also was expecting to see the pawoo competitor misskey.io since several japanese artists went there after Musk bought twitter.

    • Peter1986C@lemmings.world
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      I checked. Mostly a handful-of-people instance doing whatever on some Pleroma/Akkoma instance. Not much to see there and not much of what I could see there seemed to make much sense to me. Perhaps the defeds are mostly preventative but I cannot tell.

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    Where/how is this obtained?

    I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

    • Dramatic Shitposter@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Where/how is this obtained?

      I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.

      fba.ryona.agency

      Be aware that it doesn’t track when lemmy instances defederate from other fediverse instances correctly and hasn’t for months, and that it’s run someone from one of those 50 defederated instances.

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    This is a real rogues gallery of internet. And… a soccer team from Detroit. What the fuck did those guys do?

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    seal.cafe, cawfee.club and sleepy.cafe sure got welcoming names. Given the number of defederations, I doubt the contents are anything like the names.

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      Most of them were automatically defederated for not having adequate protection against bot signups, that got nothing to do with sketchy content.

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        As someone interested in both sides of security game theory, what exactly helps stop bots? I grew up playing RuneScape and hating bots before making r/Artisanvideos and hating them even more. I’ve always wondered if it’s a matter of automatically detecting precise repetitive patterns or just specific giveaway signs.

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        If the bots are welcomed and they don’t have good enough moderation, this is just sketchy content with extra steps.

    • WhatThaFudge@lemmy.sdf.org
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      So you need to look at the number of de federations. That is basically how many other instances have blocked them and do not receive content from them to their feed. You can still go to all these instances using their respective urls and see what they are like. The reasons for blocking them vary depending on the instance. Edit: They can still be federated with other instances that don’t block them creating their own little fediverse bubbles.

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      Defederated means that the server has been forbidden from connecting and communicating with specific other servers that have decided to defederate with it, so users from the server can’t see or interact with users and posts on the server that defederated it and vice versa. Hopefully I was clear and coincise.

    • Akagigahara@lemmy.world
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      Federated means that any instance that is federated with them receives their content and can bee seen on that instance.

      Defederated means they are not federated anymore, thus blocking both users and content.

      It’s usually done to combat content you don’t want on your instance

      • bouldering_barista@lemmy.world
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        Ok ok… So me using Lemmy.world is a specific instance of Lemmy, so it’s almost like its own server? And other instances (maybe lemmy.unitiedstates?) is its own federated instance likely related to just U.S. posts and it can communicate with other instances? Do de-federated instances have no other communication with instances?

        Apologies if these are silly, I feel like a dum dum because everyone else seems to grasp this except me.