I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.
I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.
I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.
I personally love the smaller userbase. Less spam, more quality, less screentime, no doomscrolling. Its a win-win in my book.
Plus you get to see the same accounts, the entirety of Lemmy feels like a community
Same. The only thing being niche subs on local stuff. But I remember early Reddit, and that had the same feel. Maybe with a bit more generalized memes because the hivemind was so much more exciting.
But the lack of automated astroturf and shorter comment sections makes it easy more pleasant.
Yes there needs to be more people. There’s barely any active discussion here. If you don’t want to shit on Israel, there’s just shit posts and Linux. We need more people to get active sports discussion, movies, TV, or anything else.
I moved to lemmy hoping it would be like classic Reddit, which it is to some extent. Unfortunately, my experience has been more like browsing Imgur – just endless memes and shitposts.
I tried blocking all the meme-focused communities I could find, but now my feed feels like a ghost town.
Did you have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
What are your interests?
movies
TV
sport
!football@lemmy.world (not sure what you like)
Did you have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world and https://lemmyverse.net/communities ?
I’d love a more active sports area. I comment semi regularly in a few. There is small engagement, but would love even 10-15% more.
Yes, I wish there would be more. But I am okay with the state it’s in. The engagement is good enough, and I discover interesting things every other day. You can’t force it anyway.
When I used to have Reddit on my phone, I’d look at it as soon as I woke up. There was new content constantly throughout the day so I kept coming back.
Lemmy doesn’t have the content churn, so I can genuinely just look once a day and spend an hour or so catching up. No FOMO! I much prefer it.
However I do miss some of the niche subreddits that got reasonable activity on Reddit and absolutely zero activity here. They were my favourite part of Reddit.
I’d take more activity in those niche places, but I don’t miss the addiction I had.
Spez let me go cold turkey for a while. Thanks (fuck) Spez.
Niche subreddits can have good content, and also I find myself looking at Reddit threads that come up in web searches, like if I search for a tech problem I’m having. But yes, the behaviour of Reddit as a profit-hungry corporation makes me want to not use Reddit or see their ads.
Same here, Reddit has a lot more people one there. With more people posting funny memes, videos and other things that make using Reddit more enjoyable. I try to limit my time on Reddit as much as possible
You could always browse it with an ad blocker so they don’t make ad revenue from your attention.
Same here
Post something then. Go to whatever your niche sub is and post on it. People will see it and you might get some engagements. I recently posted in !knives@sopuli.xyz and !geocaching@lemmy.world and got engagement.
yes! I posted a similar question in a diff community and someone responded: " be the change you want to see". that’s pretty much all we can do! :)
I’d like to not to.
I would much prefer seeing other people build as well, see what they bring up and whatnot. I’ve tried before on creating communities to moderate and all I’d feel like is being some of those Reddit moderators who moderate an absurd amount of subreddits.
That’s not what I want.
Maybe less content is good? Infinitely scrolling is not great, and we all know that. Having limited content on Lemmy allows me to at least move onto something else.
Yeah but also the content is quite repetitive imo
Yeah and it depends. The fact that there is no easy way to search the fedi for similar posts right now is a bit cumbersome for sure.
I see a lot of new users post something that has already been answered a 10000x times (What’s the best Linux distro? It depends !) And luckily there’s always someone to give a mature and comprehensive answer to a new comer without scaring him or down voting him to oblivion. This shows that there are a lot of people who believe in Lemmy and are ready to repeat themselves to keep Lemmy alive and give new comers a warmly welcome ! However I have only seen that kind of interaction in the Linux/self-hosted communities… Most memes/ask Lemmy/political views/… Communities seems rather hostile on their own opinions and quickly become a cesspool of anger and hate :/.
Also a lot of people think because some communities have a lower user base they won’t get any answer or interaction I was quite surprised to get a comprehensive answer and help in the bash@lemmy.ml community which has only 50 users/month !
I wasn’t referring to that kind of posts, since they “plague” Reddit too, but the posts from Reddit that gets crossposted on Lemmy. It’s like there is little to no original content here. Maybe mastodon is a bit better, though I feel like it’s slowly dying ngl
For a recent thread with other manual hobbies communities
- https://sh.itjust.works/post/26695650
- !newcommunities@lemmy.world for other instances
Likely to promote and increase activity people will try to repost what was already popular on reddit. It’s no different than movie studios wanting to only make movies that have preexisting fanbases.
I don’t think there’s much that can be done other than being patient and guiding how things grow. Reddit took a decade to build. Lemmy’s journey will likely be long, but it probably won’t take 10yrs. Solutions to existing problems will happen over time.
This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol. Reddit is a link aggregation site, same as here. Are you wanting more artists and authors posting on here for it to be considered “original”? All the links to articles or sites people are posting…aren’t really considered original. There are plenty of discussions going on that are original, but they tend to be upvoted less than posted link content so you have to usually search them out in the actual community.
This whole thread is wild with Lemmy expectations lol.
Yeah, it feels like people have expectations like the website is 100k or 200k monthly active members. We are barely 45k, so the scope has to be limited
Ohh my bad !
It just takes time. More passionate posters will come. Reddit is mostly ai-generated at this point.
I wish more technically focused communities had a real home here. I’ll google something, and see that the project I’m working on has a dedicated subreddit where someone asked my question. Wish I could see lemmy in my search results.
There is no guarantee that there will be more posters. This place might very well disappear in a few years.
Doubtful. Individual instances, yes, but lemmy overall? No.
Even when I left reddit a year ago, most accounts on the front page were reposts bots. If you spent more than a year or two on reddit, you realize everything on the front page is recycled content.
I do, yes, especially for niche communities. But other social networks aren’t the answer. Go look at what Reddit has become, or Twitter, or Facebook. It’s all junk. Half of it is AIs talking to AIs. There’s almost no meaningful conversation taking place. At least here we occasionally get some good conversations, although those are rare outside of politics and Linux.
Lemmy seems to have quite a lot of people to be fair. Apparently Lemmy.world has nearly 7,000 users a day, which is quite a lot when you think about it.
One thing I think about is that maybe there are drawbacks to the Reddit-style format of Lemmy. A cool thing about old internet forums is that posts were show in chronological order with no upvotes, which is more similar to a real world conversation. You’d read the most recent posts, rather than the most upvoted posts. This means somebody new to the conversation can have their opinion seen.
The upvoting system means that a small number of posts get nearly all the upvotes and attention, and people who post later have their posts largely ignored.
Maybe I’m wrong but it’s just something I thought about.
“New comments” allows to see the latest comments in conversations. Which is why I’m replying to you, while there are already 97 other comments here.
Sure that is true. Thank you for looking at my post and replying to it by the way. But I was just thinking how some people might just look at the top comments and nothing else. Maybe the upvote system does have some benefits though, like making bad posts less visible.
I imagine it’s something of a difference in expected audience behavior. I would think that, for most people, looking at a few of the top comments and their replies is all the engagement with a post they want to have. So, a voting system facilitates that process by highlighting a few items the hive mind likes, and leaving the rest in relative obscurity. Whereas forum style posting sort of assumes that everyone present in a thread is in conversation with one another, hence chronological organization.
Fair point, different people like different things. It’s interesting that forums are less popular now though. I signed up for Ars Technica’s forum the other day, maybe I should try it out more.
The problem with chronological forum, is that it was a used tactic to post massively new topics to “hide” some controversial topic on the “second page”. Not to say that voting doesn’t have its own problem.
Fair point, but maybe you could restrict an account to only make one thread every 10 minutes or something. And require a CAPTCHA and email or phone verification for new accounts. I guess organising and moderating social media style sites is not a simple task though.
Lemmy’s frontend default sort (Hot) is weighted heavily by time. Your comment is currently at the top, being the most recent. The second most recent is the second to top comment.
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Hard to have enshittification in a FOSS platform.
Corpo shills --> bots --> ads disguised as content --> shit
Again, difficult on a FOSS platform.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
Blue sky is not on the fediverse. They’ve decided to come up with their own federating system from the ground up, which I think kind of squandered what could have been a pivotal opportunity to help facilitate a mass exodus from Twitter, contributing to fragmentation and confusion.
But anyway. I think they intend to have their own version of federating soon but I don’t think it’s up and running yet.
They are not really allowing federation.
Details here: https://lemmy.ml/post/20064488
Thank you for that read. Seems to completely miss the point of federation. The core motivations related to improving choices about how user names and federation structure works, and forcing their domain to be the mandatory user facing side of the whole network could not possibly miss the point more except by being actually centralized. Mandatory firehose relays of the entire networds data that can’t be federated or defederated that could be prohibitively costly to host?
And the complexities under the hood that attempt to square this circle are infinitely more confusing than explaining Mastodon instances.
Happy to help. Yes, that’s pretty much the conclusion we made.
Seems to completely miss the point of federation.
.world is no different than reddit so you shouldn’t expect any improvement there.
for me the lemmyverse is better so far than reddit, x, or facebook but that’s because i spend most of my time away from the diet reddit lemmyverse instances; maybe that’ll work for you too.
What do you mean by “.world” is no different? How come?
it a moderate playground that suppresses leftists views like reddit does and when it comes to moderates, Martin Luther King Jr said it best:
First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”
Yes, but also no.
More users would be great for the fediverse, in theory. Right now Lemmy (and Mastodon) can attribute a lot of their users to people unhappy with Reddit Inc. (or X) in some way. Throwing more unhappy people into the user base would probably not lead to good outcomes.
Personally I think Lemmy and Mastodon will never get the critical mass of users needed to maintain healthy communities because the only thing they have to offer is a less bad clone of an existing network.
X is bad because a malignant political demagogue is actively destroying what most people liked about Twitter. Reddit is bad because reddit inc. cares more about profit more than the needs of the user base. But the platforms they created and/or operate aren’t designed with a federated model in mind.
If the fediverse is ever going to move out of the technically savvy, early adopter nerds phase I think it’s only going to do that through something new and better than what already exists.
I like it. There is good engagement. 10 to 20 comments on a post is enough for me to move on to the next post
I got my first reddit ban today!! I told a gamer advocating for bikini armor or something that he should just get a second screen and watch porn while he plays if he’s so fucking horny all the time and it was flagged as “harassment”. It’s only for 7 days so I guess I need to work harder to get a permaban lol.
It is stupid easy to get banned on that platform. There might as well be no rules posted there anymore.
Because all that you have to do is simply express an opinion that’ll hurt someone’s feel-feels and that’s just grounds enough to ban you over.
They’ll only have one rule and it’s “DON’T HURT MUH FEELINGS!”.
I personally think maybe it’s also in need of quality posts or engagement, but in larger quantities.
That said I know my post may not be quality input, but this is how I feel.
Feel free to have a look at !newcommunities@lemmy.world to discover other active communities
Thanks! I will use that one.